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Hello could someone try to lookup (1861) a Margaret and Joseph Chase. Looking at the marriage banns it says that Joseph was from the parish of Welchampton? And that margaret was from the paris of hanmer, and i presume that hse was born there. Margaret will be about 32, born in 1829 about. (1851) I have the 1841 census which she is on but do not have the 1851. They were married in 1853. Her maiden name was ellis. Could someone possibly look her up? I am not sure if her and husband will be in wales in 1861, but i think that she definatley will be in 1851..hopefully? Thanks stephanie.

1861 Joseph Chase abt 1812 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Head Bronington Flintshire Margaret Chase abt 1809 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Wife Bronington Flintshire Source information: RG9/1882 Registration district: Ellesmere Sub-registration district: Hanmer ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 26 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 128 GSU Number: 542882 The only other Joseph Chase in Wales 1861 was born 1773 & married to an Elizabeth

1861 but older than you said Joseph Chase abt 1812 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Head Bronington Flintshire Margaret Chase abt 1809 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Wife Bronington Flintshire ages written very clearly - 1871 Joseph Chase abt 1812 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Head Bronington Flintshire Margaret Chase abt 1808 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Wife Bronington Flintshire

do these just add to the confusion - also 1871 Ann Chase abt 1842 Tallant Green, Flintshire, Wales Wife Willington Flintshire Elizabeth Chase abt 1866 Tallant Green, Flintshire, Wales Daughter Willington Flintshire Frederick Chase abt 1863 Tallant Green, Flintshire, Wales Son Willington Flintshire Joseph Chase abt 1841 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Head Willington Flintshire Julia Chase abt 1869 Tallant Green, Flintshire, Wales Daughter Willington Flintshire

As i am not quite sure if she was born bronington could be a possibility, in 1841, her and family lived in halghton, hanmer.(Bronington is not far off.) But it does not say where they were all born, on later census' it says that some of her brothers and sisters were born in halghton, so maybe she was. He may have been in the same area as margaret in 1851, but i am not sure.

There is only one Margaret Ellis of that age in the 1851 census and she is a visiter to a household in Neath, could this be her? 2463 1851 CENSUS OF NEATH (LOTT). REF.H.O.107/2463, E.D.4I. Piece: 2463 Folio: 254 Schedule: 133 Address: LATT THOMAS ELIZABETH HD W 50 LODGINGHOUSE KEEPER GLA LANGONOYD [LLANGYNWYD] (c1801) THOMAS JEMIMA DA - 12 - GLA NEATH (c1839) THOMAS ELIZA DA - 10 - GLA NEATH (c1841) DAVID WILLIAM SO U 23 LABOURER GLA LLANGONOYD [LLANGYNWYD] (c1828) ARMSTRONG ROBERT LG M 37 PAINTER & GLAZIER DEV EXETER (c1814) ARMSTRONG MARGARET WI M 40 [LG'S WI] DEV EXETER (c1811) ARMSTRONG JOHN SO - 14 [LG'S SO] DEV EXETER (c1837) ARMSTRONG ROBERT SO - 4 [LG'S SO] DUR NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE (c1847) ELLIS MARGARET VR U 21 WASHERWOMAN GLA NEATH (c1830) Regards Jean. Sorry, I have the 1851 for Glamorgan and did a search on that, I realise now that the search was elsewhere.

I am not sure about the 1861...because if the dates are written clearly? I could not find them on the 1881 either.

On his own in 1881 Joseph Chase abt 1812 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Head Moss Lane, Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Mary Harper abt 1836 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Servant Moss Lane, Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Richard Slack abt 1870 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Unknown Moss Lane, Bronington, Flintshire, Wales

Jean that could well be her. I will have to see where neath is about.

Name: CHASE, Margaret Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 72 = born 1807... Quarter: March Year: 1879 District: Ellesmere County: Flintshire Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 617 (click to see others on page)

Thanks jess i wil have to research and see if she possibly died young that is always a possibility.

Thanks for that jess.

He did well... 1891 Chase, Elizabeth abt 1867 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Niece Bronington Flintshire Chase, Ellen abt 1879 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Niece Bronington Flintshire Chase, Joseph abt 1811 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Head Bronington Flintshire Chase, Joseph abt 1843 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Nephew Bronington Flintshire

1901 - he seems to have gone but assume this is the joseph in 1871 , that was living with him as nephew in 1881 (or was it 1891) Joseph Chase abt 1841 Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Father-in-law Bronington Flintshire Daisy H Lloyd abt 1900 Bronington, Flintshire, Wales Daughter Bronington Flintshire Joseph Lloyd abt 1892 Coalbrockdale, Shropshire, England Son Bronington Flintshire Julia Lloyd abt 1868 Talern Green, Flintshire, Wales Wife Bronington Flintshire Thomas Lloyd abt 1865 Kenersley, Shropshire, England Head Bronington Flintshire Thomas Lloyd abt 1894 Coalbrockdale, Shropshire, England Son Bronington Flintshire

Thanks everyone! You have really helped.

Joseph Snr death Name: Chase, Joseph Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 83 Quarter: December Year: 1892 District: Ellesmere County: Flintshire Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 447 (click to see others on page) this presumably his nephew Name: Chase, Joseph Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 69 Quarter: March Year: 1910 District: Ellesmere County: Flintshire Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 473 (click to see others on page)

Thanks jess i didn't know anyone was still working on it. Steph