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ok thanyou again

No idea Tracey! Perhaps if you ask on the tips board. I don't even know if they still sent convicts there that late.

thanks chloe for your help. do you know how i could check. strting to think i will never find out. thanks again tracey

I think it's supposed to say 'horsekeeper' (pencilled in groom after it). It was just an idea... probably wrong. Maybe something to look into?

never thought of that it just said on the 1901 cenus that he was a house keeper

Was it 1837 where you looked? The James Dynan on the 1901 - is that him? Well, I was thinking, what kind of 'institution' is he in? And what records might they still hold? If he was a 'criminal' - did they still send to convicts to Oz then??

i have looked for his death cant find it only one james dynan and he was only one years old. yes i know the new cenuse will not come out until 2012 looks like i might hve to wait just dont know where else to go now

Have you tried to look for a death for James DYNAN between 1901 and 1907? When you say 'next census' if you're referring to the 1911, I assume that you know it's not due for release until 2012 AND that it is NOT in very good shape at all. There are no plans as yet to transcribe it either. So you might not find them on there even when it comes out.

their mother was living with someone else in 1901 her name is harriet is was born 1878. i so need the next cenus records

thanks i knew about their marriage james and harriet and they also had a child james who died 1901. but james (husband is lost after 1901 and so are the twins born 1907. could he of took them abroad and if so are there any records sure theere not here

I found this Name Year Quarter Record Type District County >>>DYNAN, James 1898 December Marriages Stepney Greater London London Middlesex Hudson, Alice 1898 December Marriages Stepney Greater London London Middlesex >>>MARCHANT, Harriet 1898 December Marriages Stepney Greater London London Middlesex NEWSON, William Alfred R 1898 December Marriages Stepney I found james on 1901 aswell An inmate Name: James Dynan Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Inmate Household: Gender: Male Where born: Mile End Old Town, London, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiatical parish: St Benet Stepney County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG13/338 Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: Mile End Old Town Folio: 101 Page: 9 Lesley :~)

there mother was born marchant and this is what is on the cert no other name her 1st husband was dynan

there is no father on the birth cert

thanks for replying they where born mile end old town have tried on 1837 but am so lost dont know where to look now

This is the birth info I found Name: DYNAN, Ellen Rebecca & Name: DYNAN, Harriett Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1907 District: Mile End Old Town County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 455 Mile End Old Town Created 1st October 1857 (out of Stepney district). Abolished 1st January 1926 (incorporated into Stepney district). In Middlesex until 1889. Sub-districts : Mile End Old Town Eastern; Mile End Old Town North Eastern; Mile End Old Town South Western; Mile End Old Town Western. GRO volumes : 1c (1857-1925). Mile End Old Town. Registers now in Tower Hamlets district. Lesley :~)

Tracey Where have you looked? I found their births on Ancestry but nothing else. Lesley :~)

i have been trying to trace twin girls born 1907 their names are harriet and ellen rebecca dynan their mothers name is marchant i have birth cert but have come to a lost where they may be i can find no record of deaths or marriages please if someone can help i would be very grateful tracey