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How about this one for Elsie Brown? No father in 1901 but her mothers name is Alma........and Elsie called her daughter born 1918 Alma too so it might be.....will see what 1891 says. 1901 England Census Alma Brown abt 1852 York, Yorkshire, England Head York Yorkshire Elsie Brown abt 1893 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter York Yorkshire Ethel Brown abt 1898 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter York Yorkshire Gertrude Brown abt 1887 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter York Yorkshire Lilly Brown abt 1882 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter York Yorkshire Mabel Brown abt 1895 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter York Yorkshire Andrew A Sidebottom abt 1862 York, Yorkshire, England Boarder York Yorkshire

Marianna Don't be too exact on the year of birth. Not only did people not really know when they were born, but also they may have said they were 21 as this was the age they had to be to get married without parental concent. They could have been many years younger. Others will tell you that many white lies have been told over marriage ages. Victor

Marianna, hopefully 'constructive' critisism You posted requests last night and again today - thats fine. both times you have posted the bear info and the added little snippets as we have gone along. it is more helpful to post EVERYTHING you know at the outset. - You said all you knew about X was his marriage date - you knew his brides name and her fathers name AND that she was born in York!

hi victor, i think he was born 1894 or 1893 because he was 21 when he married elsie in 1915, elsie was also 21 and they where married in york edward's father was called edward but unsure as to where he was actually born and his actual dob, hope you can help thank you

Marianna There are only these tow on the 1901 census that will fit witht the age and area. Name: Edward Loftus Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Grandson Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiatical parish: St Edmund Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: RG13/4216 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 91 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 51 Name: Edward Loftus Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation: Son Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Nether Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Nether Hoyland Ecclesiatical parish: Nether Hoyland St Peter County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: RG13/4321 Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 73 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 143 (fathers name James) Victor

thanks rose for the advice will take you up on it, ave been in touch with my local registry office and what ave managed to find out is that they were married in jan 1915 and both where 21 when married, elsie was born in york and her father was andrew brown but unsure where edward was born, but his father was also called edward loftus

Have you tried to find the family on 1901 census? It is free to search. As you seem to be new to this hobby, I think you would benefit from reading the 'getting started' section on your home page - also the tips for newbies thread on here, which I will nudge up for you Happy hunting Rose

Marianna, I can only guess at when they were born. You would need to get their marriage certificate to confirm their ages.

donald was jeff's dad, are u able to tell me what year edward and elise were born, and if it was in york

marianna. You'll have to send for the marriage cert. that will tell you how old they were when they married and their fathers names

thank you for that, does it say where edward was born and elise and their dates of birth pls

Hi Marianna, Do you happen to know the maiden name of Edwards bride? Regards Vera

Ok, we'll start with this... Marriage Mar 1915 Loftus Edward Brown Elsie York 9d 74 And then you can have all these to choose from... Birth Mar 1920 Loftus Donald S mother - Brown York 9d 103 Birth Sep 1918 Loftus Alma mother - Brown York.9d 62 Birth Mar 1917 Loftus Frank mother - Brown York 9d 70 Birth Mar 1915 Loftus Edgar M mother - Brown York 9d 104 Suggesting that Donald is Jeffs father. You would need to get Jeffs birth cert to find out. I can't help with that one though.

Edward got married on 10/01/1915 and had a son on 04/01/1920, am trying to get the son,s name as we speak and jeff is the grandson of Edward, thanks tracy

Who got married in 1915 - Edward or Jeff?

Have been tasked with a bit of a challenge, am trying to trace the grandfather of Jeff Loftus, the only details i have been given are his date of marriage which is 10/01/1915 and he was serving in the army in The Royal Scots Greys, when Jeff,s father was born which was 04/01/1920 Edward was then a Lance Corporal in The Military Foot Police, if any one can help with this challenge woulg greatly appreciate it thanks marianna