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Living 27 Market Street, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire William Rylance b.1820 Liverpool Jane ' b.1825 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire Richard ' SON b.1853, Crewe, Cheshire Alice Jane ' DAUG 1857 Crewe Henry ' SON 1860 Crewe Edward ' SON 1866 Crewe As all the children seem to have been born Crewe, I'd expect them to be in Cheshire for the 61/71. William is an Engine Fitter Thanks Lou

1861.......... William Draper abt 1848 Aughton Relative Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Edward Rylance abt 1866 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Henry Rylance abt 1860 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Jane Rylance abt 1825 Birghestaff Wife Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Richard Rylance abt 1853 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire William Rylance abt 1820 Liverpool Head Coppenhall Monks Cheshire 4 London Place / his occupation is the same. 1871................ Alice Rylance abt 1857 Town of Crewe, Cheshire, England Daughter Monks Coppenhall Cheshire Henry Rylance abt 1860 Town of Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Monks Coppenhall Cheshire Jane Rylance abt 1825 Liverpool Wife Monks Coppenhall Cheshire Richard Rylance abt 1853 Town of Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Monks Coppenhall Cheshire Sarah Rylance abt 1848 Town of Crewe, Cheshire, England Daughter Monks Coppenhall Cheshire William Rylance abt 1814 Liverpool Head Monks Coppenhall Cheshire William Rylance abt 1846 Liverpool Son Monks Coppenhall Cheshire William Draper Rylance abt 1847 Liverpool Son Monks Coppenhall Cheshire 27 Market Terrace / occupation the same

You wonderful peeps! Definitely my man, Jane's maiden name was Draper! Anyone fancy finding another one???? Many thanks Lou

who you looking for Lou - i will look while I drink my tea !!

Ooooh, thank you, I'm drinking tea too! Henry Rylance, again an Engineer, he was born Liverpool in 1830. In 1881 he turns up in St George in the East, Middlesex with: Lizy WIFE 1840 b. Holborn Henry SON 1862 b. Wandsworth William SON 1864 b. St Geo in the East John SON 1866 b. Shadwell, Middlesex so, anyone's guess where they are in 61 and 71. Nothing looked obvious when I put his name into ancestry Thanks hon

trying 1871 - nothing yet - another jaffa cake with my tea might help !!

lol...appreciate it!

sorry I can't see them in '71..Kids want feeding ( why ! )...I will check back later to see if you've had any luck ...:)

Mine look like they're about the start gnawing the wallpaper too! Thanks for trying anyway!

Guess whos got 51 Cheshire coming next week

Lou Found this entry on the 1861 census for a Henry Rylance, he Is unmarried, occupation Engineer! Image terrible to read but can make out name, Occupation and Liverpool as place of birth. AGE VERY UNCLEAR, (I would go as far as saying It is unreadable) Name: Henry Rylance Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Somerset, England Civil parish: Southwark St Saviour Ecclesiatical parish: St Peter County/Island: Surrey Country: England Source information: RG9/315 Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Saviour ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 15 Page: 48 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 278 GSU Number: 542613 Lib

Hi Lou I found this and thought that their was a lot of similarities (except Henry's pob) - then went on to find the marriage what do you think ! 1871 census - Henry's occ is an Engine Driver at Factory, he is a Widow Address: 360 Cable Street Henry Kylence abt 1830 Southwark, Surrey, England Boarder Shadwell London Henry Kylence abt 1861 Southwark, Surrey, England Boarder Shadwell London Lizzy Milloy abt 1838 London City, Middlesex, England Wife Shadwell London William Milloy abt 1828 Ireland Head Shadwell London George Milloy abt 1847 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Son Shadwell London William Milloy abt 1854 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Son Shadwell London John Milloy abt 1866 Shadwell, Middlesex, England Son Shadwell London Source information: RG10/544 Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Shadwell ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 133 Page: 12 -------------------------------- MILLOY, Lizzy 1871 September Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex RYLANCE, Henry 1871 September Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex SAFFREY, Richard 1871 September Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex Corbet, Fanny 1871 September Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 453 --------------------------- Death Name: Milloy, William Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 42 Quarter: June Year: 1871 District: Whitechapel County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 236 Tilda:)

Lou, could this be William Milloy before marry-ing Lizzie??? I could be jumping the gun though! lol 1861 England Census records matching your search for All Records > Census > 1861 England Census Match Quality Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Ann Milloy abt 1821 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Wife St George in the East Middlesex George Milloy abt 1845 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Son St George in the East Middlesex Phoebe Milloy abt 1847 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Daughter St George in the East Middlesex >>>William Milloy abt 1825 Ireland Head St George in the East Middlesex Source information: RG9/278 Registration district: St George In The East Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 79 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 53 GSU Number: 542605 Lib :))

Lib/Tilda Thank you both, I've got an awful cold at the moment and am not parting company with my quilt and hot water bottle much at the mo, so appreciate your efforts while I sleep! Kylencce is an interesting mistranscription and one I'd not had so far but it certainly seems a high probability that its him. He was definitely born 1830, I have his baptism and someone has kindly found a possible on the Liverpool name index for 51, Henry is 21 and an engineer. I'll take time to digest the info you've both found when I'm a bit more awake and see where it begins to fit. Thanks again Lou

Wow, Isobel, how long has that been now????? Bet you thought it was never gonna happen. Wonder when my 51 Derbyshire can be expected then. 2007, perhaps...lol! Lou

Lou - Wish you better soon, plenty of Vit C & hot drinks Tilda:)

Thanks Tilda Feel reeaaaaaallllllyyyy bad though cos there's peeps waiting for look ups at Manchester and I cant make it to my front gate right now!