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Hi all Can I beg a request please? I only need 1 look up- and don't want to buy 50 units just for 1 so could someone please help? I have a George Worner married 2 April 1843 in Martock - Yeovil district. I know he married a Miss.Brain. Here is the hiccup. In every census and parish register her first name is totally different. So would some-one be able to look up this date for her first name please? It would be great - so far I have her as Fanny,Thomasine,Tamson and Samson and it is all the same person!!!!!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Sinead xxx

are you sure of the correct spelling of his name and what area was this marriage?

The name is correct and the area is Yeovil. The married in a parish church in Martock which comes under the Yeovil area.

Hi, took a look at 1837 and the only Miss Brain was an Ann Brain in Bristol 11 174 for that quarter and year - wanted to check if it was right looked under George worner and he was not there. Tried the spelling George Warner and found him GEORGE WARNER YEOVIL 10 939 JUNE QUARTER 1843 There are no Brains other than that Ann as mentioned, must of spelt the name in another way or used another surname. Regards Justine

I have found the entry for George on 1837online but his surname is spelt Warner with an 'a'. George Warner June quarter, 1843, Yeovil, 10, 939 However there is no corresponding entry under the name Brain, so you must have the wrong surname for his wife, or she's been missed off the index. Kath. x

From freebmd, Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1843 ELLIOTT Ann Yeovil 10 939 GALE Phebe Yeovil 10 939 GAYLARD Elizabeth Yeovil 10 939 GAYLARD Giles Yeovil 10 939 ORAM Jamson Yeovil 10 939 PALMER James Yeovil 10 939 SHOEMAKE John Yeovil 10 939 WARNER George Yeovil 10 939

I've looked at the page image for Jamson on Freebmd and its very clear handwriting and clearly Oram, on a page with other names beginning with Or so no errors. Having said that Brain and Oram do have a very similar shape so this is presumably the same lady and either the registrar copying the marriage register entry got it wrong or the records you've seen with Brain are mistranscribed.

To know for certain you would have to buy the marriage certificate for George, and just see what his wife's name is on it. Looks like Jamson Oram is the best bet. Kath. x

I think Judiths right.

Thanks for the checks. It certainly looks like they are a tad elusive!! Her surname is definitely Brain -coming straight from All Saints Church,Martock parish records and it is not difficult to read. As for George,changing an 'a' for 'o' is all to easy,especially in those days,so Worner to Warner does not cause too much grief. But her - I think she is hiding!!! If the parish record says one thing then I might send off for that George Warner's marriage cert - I do not see where else I can go from here. Many thanks for looking, Sinead xxx

Her first name is definitely Jamson on the 1881 census. Kath. x

If you know for sure Brain is the name I'd say the Jamson Oram entry is yours (correct district and quarter, all Brains for that quarter and all the names for that page ref have been transcribed by freebmd. Guess somewhere between the parish register entry and the GRO index someone wrote their B and in so badly it became Oram. Trouble is that means they could have had a similar hiccough with her christion name. Do I understand right that you have seen the original parish register entry of the marriage? If that is the case I'd go for whatever christian name she has there as it would be an original record rather than a transcript such as found on the GRO and on census returns.

Hopefully the marriage cert will give you the info that you need. Good luck Justine

which name is seen in its original state on record-oram or brain ?

Judith - the problem is on the parish register her name is different for her marriage and each child. Unless she had a nickname or the name Jamson was so different for that area and that time that mistakes were made. I give up!!!! I am going to send for the marriage certificate tomorrow and a child - just to make sure!!! - and see what comes back. Many thanks everybody, Sinead xxx

Just been checking the IGI. Although the entries are too early to be yours, there are a few Thomasin Oram's in Somerset, but no Brain's at all, so looks more likely that the surname will be Oram. Kath. x

I really don't think sending for a marriage certificate will help you if you already have seen and/or have a copy of the marriage entry in the parish register. Marriage certificates are actually certified copies of entries in the register so it will have the same layout and details as the original entry but be more prone to errors where these details were a) copied to be sent to the local register office and b) copied by the registrar to send to the GRO.