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I will be very grateful if someone would kindly look around GAWSWORTH for William Green, a Yeoman/Farmer, aged about 74 ish (born c 1797). He died in 1878 aged 81, calling himself a Yeoman and at his death was living with Edna Hammond and Mary Slater in Gawsworth. I would be interested in any other William Green, also farmer, of the same sort of age - I don't yet know if I am dealing with one William or two. Thankyou. Olde Crone

There's this one in Marton (can't see one yet in Gawsworth). He's a gardner 1871 England Census James Bate abt 1838 N Son-in-law Marton Cheshire John Bate abt 1870 Marton, Cheshire, England Son Marton Cheshire Sarah Bate abt 1841 Marton, Cheshire, England Wife Marton Cheshire Elizabeth Green abt 1794 Marton Wife Marton Cheshire William Green abt 1797 Marton Head Marton Cheshire Ok, having looked at 1861, this one is not what you're looking for. ********************************** for info 1861 Ann Green abt 1800 Marbrook, Staffordshire, England Wife Gawsworth Cheshire William Green abt 1797 Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Head Gawsworth Cheshire William Green abt 1836 Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Son Gawsworth Cheshire William Green abt 1850 Sanbach, Cheshire, England Grandson Gawsworth Cheshire

Sorry - I've tried all 3 Williams and Ann, with/without surnames, Greens, dates - nothing. I'm sure other eyes will succeed!!

1881 for Edna Hammond (couldn't see them either in 1871 in Gawsworth!!!!) Edna Hammond abt 1831 Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Head Gawsworth, Cheshire, England John W. Hammond abt 1861 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Son Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Mary Slater abt 1828 Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Sister Gawsworth, Cheshire, England

Thankyou for looking, Christine - this man is a mystery. I can find the baptism of only one William Green in the timescale. He marries an Ann, they have 8 or 9 children, and at all their baptisms he is described as a Labourer of Gawsworth. But I have the Will of William Green, a Yeoman of Gawsworth, died 1878 aged 81. He leaves everything to his Grandson, William Shaw. A Mary Green married a William Shaw in 1843, her father was William Green - no occupation given.They have a child, William Shaw. Both William Shaws are on the 1881 desribing themselves as retired farmers.William Shaw senior has the wrong wife!(Should be Mary, unless she died) William and Ann had a Mary, born 1820. I think I have two parallel families, one of William the Labourer and one of William the Yeoman - how could an illiterate labourer become a Yeoman? But I cannot find anything to prove there are two families not one!GRRRRR. Thankyou anyway! Olde Crone.

Hi there I think this is him, but he has been mistranscribed as grace ...it looks to me like Green, can send you the image. The image is quite poor, but i am certain it's green! Name: William Grace Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1798 Relation: Head Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Civil Parish or Township: Gawsworth Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG10/3678 Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Gawsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 15 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 39 GSU Number: 841869

Found it Rg10/3678 page8- mistranscribed, trying to work it out Well done Justine! I've been going through the images, trust it to be the last but one! Anyway, William senior aged 73,a farmer of 14 acres, Ann aged 70, son Mark 32, a wheelwright, married, William grandson 21, unmarried, no occupation. Address Old Parks Farm Edna Hammond next entry, Old Park Cottage, with her son John W Hammond - Edna is unmarried.

william wont be with them because they are in Handforth cum Bosden. 1871 handfoth cum Bosden 92 Vine street mary hammond Widow 59>>must have got remarried later>>Silk weaver Edna Hammond Unm.20 Edwin hammond 17 ------------------------------------------------------------------- younger william green in Gawswoth -------House,gawsworth 1871 William Green 38 Farm servant born Gawsworth(crossed out-replaced with macclesfield)

The William Green Christine found in 1861 is a farmer of 15 acres employing 1 labourer

Olde Crone Ive had a look at Image for William Grace, I would say It deffo read's Green :)) Lib

Have you asked for an 1841 look-up - that might show Mary at home with father William

Looks like Olde Crone has put her curlers in for the night!! Merry

Merry I think she may have crawled into her coffin with her pet bats. Good night Margarie! Lib :))

Oh, thankyou everybody! I thought this was dead in the water. Hmm - looks like my William the Yeoman was a fibber - wonder if you could just choose to call yourself a Yeoman and no-one would challenge you? The son Mark clinches it - my William-the-Labourer had a son Mark born 1838. William the Labourer is living next door to Edna Hammond and Mary Slater. What kind of cruel coincidence would it be if a totally unrelated William the Yeoman, exactly the same age, went to live with them? This now makes me wonder if Edna and Mary are his daughters - but why doesn't he say that in his Will? Oooh! William the Labourer has a daughter Eleanor, who is transcribed in the PR as ELNA - thats not a million miles from EDNA, is it?? No mistranscription on this family name would surprise me - I myself misread an early PR entry for Daniel Green as Daniel Gubbins!!!! But thankyou all - I now have some addresses to play about with - none on the Wills I have. Hopefully the addresses will turn up something in the Rates Book, or some Farm Leases etc. Olde Crone

IN 51 WILLIAM GREEN 55 FARMER OF 17 ACRES BORN GAWSWORTH ANN 56 JOHN 20 WILLIAM 15 MARK 12 MILL LANE GAWSWORTH HAVE IMAGE THERE IS A THOMAS FURTHER ALONG WITH A SON WILLIAM

Isobel Thankyou very much for that - I don't need the image, but this is wonderful - I have put up three requests for the 1851, got no replies and didnt dare ask again! I would like to see the other Thomas and William if you still have the details, please - on here will be fine, I dont need the image. Thankyou so much for this! Olde Crone

MALLARDS JONATHON GREEN 57 FARMER OF 61 ACRES BORN GAWSWORTH ANN 53 WILLIAM 17 THOS 15 LSO AT TANNERS PLACE GAWSWORTH SAMUEL GREEN 37 SAWYER MARIA 38 NOAH R 16 ABEL 14 ELIZA 11 RHODA 2 YOU WOULDNT HAVE GOT A REPLY BEFORE AS THE 51 HAS ONLY JUST BEEN RELEASED ON DISC.

Isobel Brilliant brilliant brilliant! Could it possibly say MOLLARDS? That is the name of the farm my proven ancestors were living at in 1861 (John's son, Thomas). We don't talk about Samuel - he married a Rathbone, which sends Merry and Jess into a dark room, for some reason!! Thankyou soooo much! Olde Crone

Yesit probably did say Mollards,Mallards was just my interpretation as it made more sense.

Thanks again, Isobel - thinks: maybe I read Mollards and it really said Mallards?! I have just been combing Cheshire BMDs to find the death of Ann Green, between 1871 and 1878. I found two, one died 1876 aged 75 and one died 1871 aged 70. Looks like I will have to get both of them as I am beginning to have an awful suspicion that there might have been two couples named William and Ann, both labourers, plus a possible William the Yeoman and unknown. I have found eight children bapt to 'William and Ann, labourer of Gawsworth' but only the youngest three appear on any census. The older five could all be married I suppose, but any suitable marriages all occur after 1841. Going to bed now, got indigestion with all those Greens. Olde Crone