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Could someone please have a look for John Henry SANDY and his family in these censuses for me? He was born in Brighton or Broadwater, Worthing around 1835 and, at the time of his marriage in 1862, he was a Telegraph Man. I am trying to identify his parents and siblings. On IGI, it simply says that his mother was Sophia SANDY, but he may have been brought up (at least) by John SANDY and his wife Martha (nee CAMIES). On his marriage cert, one of the witnesses is 'L Sandy' - I have no candidates for this, other than guessing that it may be a sibling. Thanks for anything that you find. Kind regards Jane

from 1861 Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image View Record Mary Ann Cowies abt 1793 Almsford, Hampshire, England Head Brighton Sussex View Record Elizabeth Ederidge abt 1795 Almsford, Hampshire, England Sister Brighton Sussex View Record Charles Sandy abt 1840 Brighton, Sussex, England Nephew Brighton Sussex >> View Record John H Sandy abt 1836 Brighton, Sussex, England Nephew Brighton Sussex Claire

just looking again Do you think COWIES and CAMIES is the same name? the lady on 1861 has occupation as nurse. Claire

beat me to it he was aTelegraph clerk in 1861

found 1871 telegraph clerk but wrong wife unless Emily was her middle name and didn't like martha Record Alfred J Sandy abt 1863 Brighton, Sussex, England Son St Paul Deptford London View Record Christopher C Sandy abt 1869 Deptford, Kent, England Son St Paul Deptford London == View Record Emily Sandy abt 1836 Worthing, Sussex, England Wife St Paul Deptford London View Record Ernest A C Sandy abt 1865 Brighton, Sussex, England Son St Paul Deptford London ==View Record John H Sandy abt 1836 Brighton, Sussex, England Head St Paul Deptford London View Record Wallace J L Sandy abt 1867 Deptford, Kent, England Son St Paul Deptford London

found the same family in 1881 /91and 1901 telegraph engineer and also draughtes man still with wife Emily

found this so must be wrong family :( Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1862 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hards Helen Worthing 2b 411 Hart Emily Worthing 2b 411 Sandy John Henry Worthing 2b 411

slight confusion with names JOHN H SANDY possily brought up by MARTHA CAMIES and JOHN SANDY john junior may well have been married to EMMA Claire

the only marriage that came up on freebmd for worthing 1862 was that one no Martha I know very strange. i did mar1860 -dec1863 perhaps I am getting confused :0$ going to sort dinner out Jeanette

Wow! You guys are really f-a-s-t! Thank you for this lot. I have some questions/comments: Claire - don't understand the 1861 info you posted as first reply. Is this an entire household or just index details? Does it give a street address? I agree that 'COWIES' and 'CAMIES' could indeed be the same ... transcribers often see the ghastly old writing in different ways. Also, Claire, it is intriguing how a 'COWIES' lady has a 'SANDY' nephew ... supposing she's not married at that point. And that her sister is an 'EDERIDGE' - assume married, absent husband? I am almost certain that Almsford should read Alresford. This 'new' Charles SANDY, nephew, is VERY interesting indeed ... must have been John's brother. I wonder if Mary was Martha's sister and was looking after the boys on Census night? In which case, where were Martha & John senior? Maybe they had expired by then? But I have found no death records - apart from (on FreeBMD) Martha SANDY in Brighton in 1855 which could well be her. In which case, by 1861, the kids could certainly have been 'parked' on another female family member. Jeanette - John Henry SANDY married Emily HART (John Junior; John SANDY (senior) married Martha CAMIES in Brighton on 16 April 1825 (i.e. before Civil Registration began) - I have a certificate and listing from the Sussex Marriage Index, respectively, for these events. Do either of you have access to 1851 Census for Brighton? This may be more definitive in terms of who JH's parents/siblings were. You really are very kind people - thank you again for your time and efforts. Regs Jane PS: Hope neither of you has got indigestion after this lot!!

on 1861 had to go back to page 1. Terminus street it had 10 but crossed out

So this is an entire 'household' then, Jeanette? Terminus Street is good - I think the railway station is there! Useful for JH's later career. Pushing my luck, can you find a Sophia SANDY in 1861? She should have been around Brighton still. This is the lady I have 'earmarked' for JH's mother. Regs Jane PS: Do you have access to 1851?

No I havn't got 1851 but its supposed to be coming to ancestry next week.

Jeanette, Thanks for this. I shall be on the edge of my seat for that 1851 Census now - I really do think that will hold the answer. Unless of course, you have the 1841 Census already? (I know that one is a b**** to read - having bought the CD for Norfolk, I wished I hadn't! Look forward to hearing from you again - if you are able to turn up any more on my SANDYs. This really is jolly nice of you ... Jane x

here are the ones that shared number 10 View Record Paul Funnell abt 1837 Brighton, Surrey, England Boarder Brighton Sussex View Record Eliza Morris abt 1848 Brighton, Surrey, England Daughter Brighton Sussex View Record Elizabeth Morris abt 1809 Southwick, Surrey, England Head Brighton Sussex View Record Ellen Morris abt 1835 Brighton, Surrey, England Daughter Brighton Sussex View Record William Morris abt 1850 Brighton, Surrey, England Son Brighton Sussex

Jeanette, So it was a kind of boarding house I guess. When it says 'View Record', does that mean there is more info available? Regs Jane