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1861 look up, Lancs, please!

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Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 1 Dec 2005 19:44

Alison, Ive found this possible marriage ref for a Samuel Fletcher, no mention of a Wilmot bride though, however she may not have been transcribed just yet! Fletcher, Samuel Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1858 District: Barton upon Irwell (1850-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 514 View Record Chapman, John 1858 December Marriages Barton upon Irwell (1850-1934) Lancashire >>>> View Record Fletcher, Samuel 1858 December Marriages Barton upon Irwell (1850-1934) Lancashire View Record HALL, Ellen 1858 December Marriages Barton upon Irwell (1850-1934) Lancashire View Record Pollitt, Eliza 1858 December Marriages Barton upon Irwell (1850-1934) Lancashire Barton upon Irwell Created 1st January 1850 (out of Chorlton and Worsley districts). Sub-districts : Barton; Stretford; >>>Worsley<<<. GRO volumes : XX (1850-51); 8c (1852-1934). Barton upon Irwell, Barton Moss, Clifton, Davyhulme, Eccles, Flixton, Irlam, Stretford, Swinton, Urmston, Worsley. Registers now divided between Salford and Trafford districts Lib :))

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 30 Nov 2005 16:07

Thanks Jess, for listing the Fletchers in worsley!! Lib, thanks for all the info! it does start to get a bit confusing!! i too think mary mother was one of jane's sisters, who married a fletcher! but also like you have said, mary could have been samuel willmotts child!! i think i will have to go and get Mary's birth certificate!!! Would you be able to send me the 1851 image for the wilmotts? also you sent me mary fletcher in 1881, but the image was not too good! i can't read it!! would you be able to resend it?? If you need my email addy again, just let me know! Thanks again for all your help, Alison

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 30 Nov 2005 00:29

Alison here is the Wilmot family in 1851: I wonder if Mary Fletcher is the daughter of either Sarah or Mary Wilmot that appear in 1851, she could also be illegitimate and her father chose to be present at her birth registration, thereby she was legally named Fletcher........She could also be the daughter of a sibling not showing with the parents in 1851,also Is it possible that Mary is Samuel Wilmot's illegitimate daughter ???......................just a few thoughts! 1851: Head is a Carpenter. Samuel is a Carpenter Sarah is a Power Loom Weaver. Mary is a Winder at factory. Address, Frostle Grove View Record George Wilmott abt 1845 Eccles, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record James Wilmott abt 1805 Carmston, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record James Wilmott abt 1839 Eccles, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Jane Wilmott abt 1809 Carnarvon, Wales Wife Worsley Lancashire View Record Jane Wilmott abt 1841 Eccles, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Joseph Wilmott abt 1849 Eccles, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Mary Wilmott abt 1834 Carnarvon, Wales Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Samuel Wilmott abt 1830 Openshead, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Sarah Wilmott abt 1832 Carnarvon, Wales Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record William Wilmott abt 1847 Eccles, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire HO107/2217 Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell Sub-registration district: Worsley ED, institution, or vessel: 2h Folio: 273 Page: 38 Household schedule number: 149 GSU Number: 87227

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 29 Nov 2005 23:36

Alison, Just found above Samuel in 1871 with his wife and family, so you can eliminate that one! He is a Grocer and tea dealer. View Record Julia Fletcher abt 1826 Burton, Lancashire, England Wife Stretford Lancashire >>>View Record Samuel Fletcher abt 1841 Worsley, Lancashire, England Head Stretford Lancashire View Record Mary J Longshaw abt 1847 Crofts Barks, Lancashire, England Servant Stretford Lancashire View Record Thomas Rawlinson abt 1847 Dunham, Cheshire, England Assistant Stretford Lancashire View Record Annie Salworth abt 1857 Manchester, Lancashire, England Stepdaughter Stretford Lancashire View Record William Warburton abt 1851 Flixton, Lancashire, England Assistant Stretford Lancashire Lib :)) Alison, if Mary is Jane's niece then Mary's mother has to be one of Jane's siblings, this then makes James Willmott, Mary's grandfather! Unless Jane was married of course, Mary could then be her niece from her husbands side of the family, oh in confused now lol lol. Lib :))

The Bag

The Bag Report 29 Nov 2005 23:36

and 150 Marys living in worsley , born 1859 +/-2 Can't list them all!!- well I could.....

The Bag

The Bag Report 29 Nov 2005 23:32

using your basic criteria mary Fletcher birthplace ( no year of birth) worsley = View Record Mary Fletcher abt 1834 Worsley, Lancashire, England Wife Worsley Lancashire View Record Mary Fletcher abt 1846 Worsley, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire Swinton = 0 ------------------------------------- plenty of Fletchers living in worsley , even some at the right time, but no Mary View Record Ann Fletcher abt 1809 Worsley, Lancashire, England Wife Worsley Lancashire View Record Ann Fletcher abt 1845 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Fletcher abt 1840 Worsley, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Fletcher abt 1845 Worsley, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record John Fletcher abt 1851 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record John Thomas Fletcher abt 1860 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Joseph Fletcher abt 1835 Worsley, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record Joseph Fletcher abt 1840 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Levis Fletcher abt 1822 Worsley, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record Mary Fletcher abt 1821 Warrington, Lancashire, England Wife Worsley Lancashire View Record Mary Fletcher abt 1834 Worsley, Lancashire, England Wife Worsley Lancashire View Record Mary Fletcher abt 1842 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Mary Fletcher abt 1846 Worsley, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Robert Fletcher abt 1840 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Rosanah Fletcher abt 1853 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Samuel Fletcher abt 1802 Billington, Staffordshire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record Sarah Fletcher abt 1845 Worsley, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Sarah Ellen Fletcher abt 1858 Worsley, Lancashire, England Daughter Worsley Lancashire View Record Stephen Fletcher abt 1805 Worsley, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record Thomas Fletcher abt 1822 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record William Fletcher abt 1843 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 29 Nov 2005 23:21

images sent!

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 29 Nov 2005 22:59

Could somebody email me the 1861 image for the Wilmotts? Alison.

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 29 Nov 2005 22:58

Thanks Lib, Can you see Mary Fletcher on the 1861 at all? i say she is aged around 3 years, but she could be 1 year! and like i said, on her marriage cert it says her father is called Samuel, who is a bricklayer! Alison.

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 29 Nov 2005 22:53

Samuel and others in household: 1861: Address:263 Deansgate, Manchester. View Record Thomas Armitt abt 1848 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Manchester Lancashire View Record Julia Ashworth abt 1824 Barton Upon Irwell, Lancashire, England Head Manchester Lancashire >>> View Record Samuel Fletcher abt 1841 Worsley, Lancashire, England Boarder Manchester Lancashire View Record Francis Murray Gould abt 1841 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Manchester Lancashire View Record Jonathan Hancock abt 1845 Stretford, Lancashire, England Boarder Manchester Lancashire View Record Sarah Obrien abt 1832 Manchester, Lancashire, England Servant Manchester Lancashire

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 29 Nov 2005 22:52

Yeah!! that is the family!! In 1871 the head is James Wilmott aged 68, born in worsley and he is a widow, the the other person is jane wilmott, daughter, aged 28. then Mary fletcher is with them in '71 she is down as a lodger, but is actually Jane's neice!!

The Bag

The Bag Report 29 Nov 2005 22:48

got the Wilmot's no Mary though View Record George Wilmot abt 1844 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record James Wilmot abt 1803 K N, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire View Record James Wilmot abt 1839 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Jane Wilmot abt 1805 Carnobon, Lancashire, England Wife Worsley Lancashire View Record Jane Wilmot abt 1842 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record Joseph Wilmot abt 1849 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire View Record William Wilmot abt 1846 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 29 Nov 2005 22:48

Lib, Do you know the address? and who else he is living with? Alison

Fiona

Fiona Report 29 Nov 2005 22:46

Is this the Wilmot family? 1861 census. George Wilmot abt 1844 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire James Wilmot abt 1803 K N, Lancashire, England Head Worsley Lancashire James Wilmot abt 1839 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire Jane Wilmot abt 1805 Carnobon, Lancashire, England Wife Worsley Lancashire Jane Wilmot abt 1842 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire Joseph Wilmot abt 1849 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire William Wilmot abt 1846 Worsley, Lancashire, England Son Worsley Lancashire

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 29 Nov 2005 22:40

I have an 1871 census, where James wilmott is the head, aged 64. his daughter is jane aged 28. then there is a Mary fletcher with them as a lodger, aged 13, all born in worsley, this is 1871, so i was just trying to locate them in 1861. From 1871 onwards i have mary living with Jane wilmot, i got mary's marriage cert today and it says her father is samuel fletcher but at the date of marriage he is deasesed.

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 29 Nov 2005 22:40

could this be her father? He is unmarried, occupation Journeyman Grocer? Samuel Fletcher 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Boarder Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Worsley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Manchester Ecclesiatical parish: St Matthew Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG9/2942 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Deansgate ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Folio: 93 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 226 GSU Number: 543053

The Bag

The Bag Report 29 Nov 2005 22:35

cant find her! where are you sourcing your info please?

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 29 Nov 2005 22:15

Hello! I'm looking for a Mary Fletcher in 1861, she would be aged around 3 years old, her father is called Samuel, but she could possibly be living with a family called Wilmott. Mary was born in swinton/worsley. I think she would be living in Swinton. Thanks, Alison