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Also received a pm from Verna. For the benefit of others who may be following the thread, I'm sure she won't mind me re-posting bits of it here: ... thanks for all the help ... Looks like the name Lauback was changed to Lawback during the first world war and possibly garndad changed his name as Nan didn't like it. Does seem there is a strong link to Newcatle as well as London. I do know there was a musical instrument factory involved somewhere and that great gran sang opera. Grandad was sent to live with an Aunt? in Norfolk at some point don't know how long for. G. Gran killed in the blitz no details on G. Grandad. ... Once again thanks.

Got a John here- also born Germany ,. also a music teacher from 1891 Laubach, John P abt 1826 Germany Head Willesden Middlesex Laubach, Julia abt 1863 Edinburgh, Scotland Daughter Willesden Middlesex Laubach, Louisa abt 1870 Edinburgh, Scotland Daughter Willesden Middlesex Laubach, Martha abt 1834 Kent, England Willesden Middlesex living in Aldershot Rd

Impossible task ??? WELL DONE you lot ! Elaine ;-)

Verna-sent me a message-Thanks for that Verna. 1891 brings in this widow View Record Laubach, Ann abt 1831 Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Head Lambeth London View Record Laubach, Conrad H abt 1867 Scotland Son Lambeth London View Record Laubach, Herbert J abt 1870 Scotland Son Lambeth London son CONRAD's occ is given as proffesor of music --------------------------------------------------- you are probably going to want all of these as some point! Births Laubach, Albert Edward 1902 December Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London LAUBACH, Alice Ada C 1883 March Births Chorlton Lancashire Laubach, Arnim 1889 March Births Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex Laubach, Bertha Isabella 1895 December Births Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex Laubach, Cecil 1893 June Births Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex Laubach, Cissy Helen D 1894 March Births Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Laubach, Edith Ellen V 1901 September Births Islington Greater London London Middlesex LAUBACH, Edith Emily 1897 December Births Pancras (1837-1901) London Middlesex LAUBACH, Ernest 1886 March Births Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex Laubach, Esther Lillian D 1907 September Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London Laubach, Ethel 1905 June Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London Laubach, Ethel 1908 December Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London Laubach, George 1904 March Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London Laubach, George William H 1892 December Births Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Laubach, George Wilson 1898 June Births Pancras (1837-1901) London Middlesex Laubach, Gertrude Dorothy 1899 September Births Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Laubach, Grace 1907 September Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London Laubach, Henry Richard 1900 September Births Pancras (1837-1901) London Middlesex Laubach, Henry Victor L 1894 June Births Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland View Record LAUBACH, Philip Alfred 1883 September Births Hendon Greater London Middlesex View Record Laubach, Sydney 1891 March Births Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex View Record LAUBACH, Viola 1901 June Births Hendon Greater London Middlesex View Record Laubach, Violet Alice G 1905 March Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London DEATHS LAUBACH, Ada Consuela 1882 June Deaths Chorlton Lancashire < dies aged 1 Laubach, Alfred Carl W 1879 March Deaths Chorlton Lancashire LAUBACH, Alice 1883 June Deaths Chorlton Lancashire Laubach, Ann 1903 June Deaths Wandsworth London Surrey < age 72 Laubach, Dorothy G 1900 September Deaths Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland age 0 Laubach, Elizabeth K A 1893 December Deaths Huddersfield West Riding of Yorkshire West Yorkshire < age 19 LAUBACH, Elsa Annetta P 1881 March Deaths Chorlton Lancashire < age 1 Laubach, George Wilson 1899 September Deaths Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland < age 1 LAUBACH, Hester Lilian D 1910 March Deaths St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London < age 2 Laubach, Hugo Conrad 1895 December Deaths Lambeth Greater London London Surrey < age 28 Laubach, John Philip 1891 December Deaths Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex < age 65 Laubach, Martha 1891 September Deaths Epping Essex < age 57 Laubach, Wilhelm C 1896 June Deaths Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland < age 59 MARRIAGES Laubach, Annetta Sophia M 1893 September Marriages Lambeth Greater London London Surrey LAUBACH, Bertha Marion C 1889 June Marriages Marylebone (1837-1901) London Middlesex Laubach, Edith Emily C 1900 September Marriages Durham (1837-1938) Co. Durham Laubach, Emily Gertrude B 1891 June Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Laubach, Eugen Richard L 1893 March Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland LAUBACH, Henry Victor L 1910 June Marriages Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex Laubach, Louise Alice J 1891 September Marriages Hendon Greater London Middlesex Laubach, Walter Hermann 1900 June Marriages Wandsworth London Surrey

And this is from http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/PP_I/pp_laubach.htm The Laubach Family Family Details Many thanks to Pat Lawback for providing the information below: - Wilhelm was the youngest of 3 brothers from Mottau, Duchy of Nassau, who married and settled in Edinburgh 1855, and 1865. - Wilhelm appears in the 1861 census, living with his brother Philipp's and his family. - Madam W Laubach is Wilhelm's wife Emily nee Brown. - The 3 brothers were Conrad, Philipp and Wilhelm. - Alfred and Walter were sons of Philipp. - F. is Franklin, son of Conrad, who emigrated to Canada in 1904, and founded what is now the Regina Symphony Orchestra. - H.J. is Herbert Ivo, son of Conrad. - Mina is Alfreda Wlihelmina, daughter of Wilhelm. - C. William is Wilhelm Christian. - The family moved to Chorlton, Lancs in around 1877. - He was a French horn player and teacher as well as being a photographer. - In 1881, he was living at 64, Denmark Rd. Chorlton, Manchester Pat Lawback whose husband is Victor, musician and musical teacher. Victor's grandfather was Heinrich Victor Lohr Laubach, inventor & musical instrument maker & repairer. His great grandfather was Wilhelm Christian Laubach, teacher of music and photographer. Thanks for info on several members of the Laubach family. Verna - copy and paste this link to find Pat Lawback's contact details (replace * with . of course): http://www.musicteachers*co.uk/teacher/896e9ad9fc41f9021ecf Also, Wilhelm Christian Laubach is listed on GR, by user-name Peter. Would be worthwhile you contacting him as well. Richard

From what Richard found on the IGI - these are some of the other children Wilhelm and Emily had in Scotland - siblings of Richard 35. GERTRUDE EMILY BESSIE LAUBACH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Female Birth: 31 AUG 1872 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland 36. HEINRICH VICTOR LOHR LAUBACH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Birth: 14 JUL 1870 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 37. WILHELM EDWARD LAUBACH - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Male Birth: 26 OCT 1866 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Using this, you can find them on the 1881 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William LAUBACH Head M Male 42 Nassau, Germany Musician Emily LAUBACH Wife M Female 32 Hereford, England Musician Wife Louse LAUBACH Son U Male 13 Einburg, Scotland Scholar Hemrich LAUBACH Son U Male 11 Einburg, Scotland Scholar Gerty LAUBACH Daur U Female 8 Einburg, Scotland Scholar Wilhelminia LAUBACH Daur U Female 5 Einburg, Scotland Scholar Emily LAUBACH Daur U Female 3 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Edward LAUBACH Son U Male 15 Edinburgh, Scotland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 64 Denmark Rd Census Place Chorlton On Medlock, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341937 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3922 / 103 Page Number 10 There are some BMD in Chorlton for Laubach too. Some of them seem to have gotten married in Newcastle (from FreeBMD).

From the IGI: EUGEN RICHARD LUDWIG LAUBACH Birth: 09 AUG 1868 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Parents: Father: WILHELM CHRISTIAN LAUBACH Mother: EMILY BROWN Note the father's name! Also, Ludwig is the German variant of Louis. QED? Wilhelm & Emily's marriage is also on the IGI, and there's stuff on the net about Wilhelm - he was a photographer in Edinburgh apparently. Just Google his name. Richard

Yes but if there's a William Christian S Lauback AND a William Christian S Laubach both born in Sept qtr 1896, I'll eat my hat! There's only 2 LAUBACK events on the whole of freeBMD: one of them is a mistranscription (image has LAUBACH), and the other is entered under both spellings, so presumably whoever compiled the index in the first place couldn't decide what the spelling was in that case.

Richard - i havent dismissed verna- just that if she comes back and says 'No defo the spelling that I said'' it will have been pointless looking further

Jess - yes but give her a chance - she did say ''need to sleep'' and that was only 3 hours ago! Richard

And Edith's birth (ties in with the 1901 census details): Births Mar 1870 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forder Edith Anna Loddon 4b 226

And here's William's birth! Note: Newcastle, not Essex/Middlesex! Births Sep 1896 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Laubach William Christian S Newcastle T. 10b 165

Newcastle area is looking good, Jess! Found this marriage which may be relevant. Verna - could Edith's maiden name have been Forder rather than Forster? If so, then this could be the marriage: Marriages Mar 1893 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forder Edith Annie Newcastle T 10b 143 Kelley Eva Newcastle On Tyne 10b 143 Laubach Eugen Richard L Newcastle T. 10b 143 Miller James Hart Newcastle T. 10b 143 In which case, the first census find above would tie in, if both parents were using their second names?

cant do any more without you

LAUBACH, Viola 1901 June Births Hendon Greater London Middlesex Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1901 District: Hendon County: Greater London Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 303 View Record Laubach, Violet Alice G 1905 March Births St Pancras (1902-1977) Greater London London Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1905 District: St Pancras (1902-1977) County: Greater London London Volume: 1b Page: 89

nearest i can find 1) View Record Annie Laubach abt 1872 Loddon, Norfolk, England Wife St Pancras London View Record Daisy Laubach abt 1894 Newcastle Upon Tyne Daughter St Pancras London View Record Edith Laubach abt 1899 St Pancras, London, England Daughter St Pancras London View Record Henry Laubach abt 1893 St Pancras, London, England Son St Pancras London View Record Richard Laubach abt 1871 Scotland Head St Pancras London *View Record William Laubach abt 1898 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son St Pancras London 2) View Record Alfred Laubach abt 1897 St Pancras, London, England Son Islington London View Record Christina Laubach abt 1870 Newcastle Upon Tyne Wife Islington London View Record Henry Laubach abt 1871 Scotland Head Islington London View Record Henry Laubach abt 1895 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son Islington London **View Record William Laubach abt 1893 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son Islington London

he will only be on one census 1901 - no later ones are availible- do you have him on that? do you have his original birth cert? when did his parents marry any idea where are you sure the surname is spelled like that - i cant find very much either

We are trying to trace our grandfathers' tree but have drawn a complete blank. Have lots of info but nothing comes back. Born 2nd August 1896 William Christian Samuel Lauback in Grater London or Essex. The problem is he changed his surname by deed poll, have the document in 1920 to Beacham and we can't find anything on both names. He also changed his birth certificate to the new name have that but not the original. Married Nan, Jan 1st 1921 in Chester-le Street Co. Durham, Agnes Jane Critchley. Was Chief engineer at Kimblesworth or maybe Nettlesworth pit till he retired. Had a brother Harry, two sisters Mona and Vi, she lived in Dagenham possible further two siblings. He was in WW1 in France and had something to do with the Gurkhas. We have tried all these lines and nothing back, like he didn't exist. Feel sure he would be on a census after his marraige as he was very hot on details! His father was of German extraction that's why he changed his name after the war. G. Grandfather Loius Richard Lauback married to Edith Eunice nee Forster with all these details you would think we would hit on something. Any help would be very appreciated need to sleep!