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Can anyone help me solve the background of the GAME family from Liverpool? My elderly Aunt knows nothing about her late Father. This is the information she gave me. Father Herbert William Game born Liverpool 1900. He had three sisters that she knew of they were Ethel Margaret, Bertha & Hilda Game. His Father she said was Jack? I have found 1901 Census with Bertha Game abt 1893. Herbert Game abt 1900. Hilda Game abt 1895. Julia Game abt 1867. Civil Parish of Bootle cum Linacre. Lancashire. When I opened up the view it also shows John Game aged 62 yrs. On an earlier census I found John with another family and wife, in this census he had a daughter Julia? Found Herbert William Game on 1837 but does not give Mothers maiden name. Ethel Margaret could have been born after 1901 Census, but who was he married too? IS JULIA IS DAUGHTER from previous marriage and if so where are the other children? Here is my update with all previous thread attached. John Game to Julia Prosser marriage still NOT LOCATED DID find John Death in 1904. Also Found Julia Game Widow married James Lunt in 1907. Also Found Julia Prosser under Prasser 1871 Census born Hanley Castle, Worcestershire. Got death certificate for John Game showing Julia Formally Prosser as Widow. Got Marriage Certificate Julia Game Widow to James Lunt Widow. This gave her Father as Richard Prosser occupation Huntsman. Also traced Hilda & Bertha Game to Sheltered Homes who went to Knowleton Receiving Home as Part of British Childrens Homes Party being Part of Birts Party on ship Victorian in 1907. Also found marriage of Sister Ethel Margaret to Thomas Fleming in Halifax. Thanks to Everyone on Thread. Plus Subsequent Threads following different lines. Anyone help find marriage has I still cannot find that or John Game earlier although I do believe he married Julia's sister Mary Ann Prosser as she too is the Daughter of Richard Prosser of Hanley Castle. Julia Prosser is the mother of all four children as I have obtained their birth certificates too. John Game did have other children to her sister Mary Ann Prosser and these have been located on census. Thanks Again everyone Janice

The only way to find Julia's parents is to get her birth cert. Can't find her birth on ancestry civil reg. nell

This appears to be them 1901: John Game abt 1839 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Julia Game abt 1867 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Bertha Game abt 1893 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Hilda Game abt 1895 Bootle, Lancashire, England Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Herbert Game abt 1900 Bootle, Lancashire, England Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Julia 's relationship is stated as boarder, as is all the Game family, since their relationship is to the head of household, which is not John Game, but Agnes Jones. So she is young enough to be John's daughter, but could possibly be his wife, since he must have had a wife as recently as the year before, and there appear to be no other candidates in the household. nell

Can't find Julia Game in 1891 or 1881. nell

Can't find John Game on previous censuses either. nell

Hi Helen Thanks for trying. Yes that is them on the 1901 census, that is what I found. I did find another John Game & Julia Game and on that one he was the head and Julia the daughter. But other information did not tally, where born was essex and Julie was born later. So not sure it was even same John & Julia? It is a real mystery and my Aunt would love it solved as she is in her 70s now and thinks she is the last of the Games. Thanks very much for looking, sometimes someone else can see something that has been missed. Janice

Births Jun 1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Game Bertha W.Derby 8b 413 Births Sep 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Game Herbert William W. Derby 8b 429 Births Sep 1895 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GAME Helda West Derby 8b 470 No Hilda June

Janice There is a John Game born 1839 who appears in earlier censuses, but I dismissed him because he was born in Essex, which doesn't fit the other information. nell

Right, John Game in 1901 is a matchbox maker. John Game in 1881 born 1839 Felstead, Essex is a cooper, living in Frosts Yard, Colchester St Peter, Essex. Although he has a daughter called Julia he also seems to have other children, and a wife called Emma. This Julia has a different birthplace and birth year from 1901 Julia, so I don't think these are the same families.: John Game abt 1839 Felstead, Essex, Head Emma Game abt 1838 Braintree, Essex, Wife Ada Game abt 1866 Terling, Essex Daughter Walter Game abt 1868 Terling, Essex, Julia Game abt 1871 Colchester Daughter Edith Game abt 1875 Colchester,Daughter Nellie Game abt 1881 Colchester,Daughter nell

Couldn't find Ethel MargaRet's birth when I looked, so tried just Ethel - and found Game, Ethel Margaet [no 2nd R!] Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1903 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 374 If you bought the cert it would give Ethel's mother's name. nell

Hi June Thanks for checking those for me, think Helda will be my Hilda, perhaps mispelt? Thankyou for your time & trouble Janice

Hi Helen Thanks again for your time and trouble. The 1901 is definately the right ones, the others has you say are not right place information. Although looking at age of John I did expect to find him earlier with another family? My Aunt said it was a very mixed up family with stepchildren and the like? My Aunt did not know of the mother or name, never heard her father say anything about his mother not even her name? Her Father came to Yorkshire with his sister Ethel Margaret when he was only about 13yrs, his Father was dead. The two older sisters left the Country one to America and one to Cananda. It is a Mystery. Thank you again. Janice

Hi Again Helen Thanks for that information of birth for Ethel. John must have been sixty four when she was born, one wonders when he died and who looked after the children till they came to yourkshire? Thanks Janice

Thank you for all the help tonight, especially all the birth information. Will have to go get the birth certificate as you say and get details of the Mother. Ethel married in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire to a Fleming so I am told, so I could get her marriage certificate too, it may hold some clues. Thanks to both of you, Janice

Janice Have another look at the 1901 image John is a ship's stoker and may have been at sea or abroad in previous censuses Julia is almost half his age, surely she is his daughter. They are both married but to each other ? The address is 18 Lincoln Street, Bootle Also living in Bootle in 1901 is a William Game (Dock Porter) unmarried Address Audley ? Street William Game abt 1881 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Nephew Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Alfred Holmes abt 1884 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Stepson Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Eliza McCarroll abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire John McCarroll abt 1851 Ireland Head Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire John Fallen abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire Michael Ruddy abt 1861 Ireland Boarder Bootle cum Linacre Lancashire 1891 Hames, Alfred W abt 1885 Liverpool Nephew Bootle Lancashire Hames, Eliza abt 1842 Liverpool Aunt Bootle Lancashire McCarroll, John abt 1852 Ireland Head Bootle Lancashire 1881 John Mccarroll abt 1857 Ireland Boarder No 59 Eston Junction, Eston, Yorkshire, England

Hi Paul Thanks for that information. Yes, I did see the Marine Stoker on image and that fits in with Aunt's past on information. Her father said his Father worked on the docks, this could have have been later in life. Thank you for pointing out that they may not be married to each other, so Julia could be anyone really? If Julia was his Daughter & married she would not be called Game? To be married and called Julia Game she would have to be an in-law? Thanks also for raising the point that has a Marine Stoker he could be at sea on earlier census. I saw there were a lot of Game families from around that area and also around the Essex area, was wondering if they were connected further back? Know Herbert William came from Liverpool because he said so, but his Father could have come from anywhere originally. Still Puzzled. Thanks Anyway Janice

Still looking at information and trying to solve the Game Mystery. Julia Game on census born abt 1867? I checked this on 1837 from 1867 - 1869 and could not find her listed? Checked Julia Game 1870 and found her listed in that year name Julia Laura Game. This Julia tied in with John Game married to Emma and checked out on sveral census years from the age of 7 months onwards bringing me back to 1901 where I find Julie & John with the children Bertha, Hilda & Ernest William Game. My search also shows Ethel in 1903, so Julia & John still producing. In 1907 I did find a Julia Game getting married & think it is the same Julia, probably John was deceased by then due to his age. So I am still confused, will definately have to order a certificate to clarify where Julia came from and if she was John's Daughter or Wife. Thanks Everyone & Merry Christmas. Janice

Well Happy New Year everyone. I have received the copy of the birth of Herbert William Game born July 15th 1900. Parents are John Game & Julia Game formally Prosser. So Julia was the wife after all, even with the big age gap. Now I need to find where Julia Prosser came from? Also try to establish if John Game was on his second marriage. Need to locate John's Marriage to Julia Prosser to see if he was w Widow or whatever when he married Julia Prosser? Any one with any ideas all help very much appreciated. Thank you all who have helped me get to here. Janice

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