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Ok footy over! Wow Sarah! Not only is Frances the right age but so is Beatrice. Relationship to head of household? But evidently families were big & sprawling then. Doncaster to Lancashire is a trek though - especially as Frances married in Doncaster and brought up her family there. But interesting all the same & I obviously need to dig deeper into the branches to solve this one as I can't see an obvious link. It would seem that Ruth's family originate in Wakefield which is at least on the way to Lancs though! Will go and find the image myself now. Thank you.

Hi Bridie I think I may have found Frances on the 1901 census Going by what you said about her cousin/aunt being Beatrice and the fact that she was brought up with relatives. This is the ONLY Frances I can find witht the correct birth date, even though she is listed as being a 'male', see what U think. 32 Cotton Street Burnley Jmaes Dunken H M 40 coal miner hewer b. Chudleigh, Devon Emma Jane Dunken Dau 12 s b. Lancs Burnley MaryAnn Cairns Boarder M 39 Cotton Weaver b. Lancs Burnley Leila Cairns Boarder s 18 Cotton Weaver b. Lancs Burnley Norah Cairns Boarder s 16 Cotton Weaver b. Lancs Burnley Rosannah Cairns Boarder s 14 Cotton Weaver b. Lancs Burnley Ernest Cairns Boarder s 12 Reacher in cotton Mill b. Lancs Burnley ***FRANCIS CAIRNS S 9 B. LANCS BURNLEY Beatrice Cairns Boarder s 5 b. Lancs Burnley Leo Cairns Boarder s 3 b. Lancs Burnley James Cairns Boarder s 7 mths b. Lancs Burnley Ecclesiastical Parish Habergham Eaves Holy Trinity County Lancs RG13/3874 West Ward ED 42 Folio 108 pg 4 What do you think??? Sarah

1891 census would seem to confirm everything: (mistranscribed as Caines) View Record Caines, Beatrice abt 1889 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, Emma A abt 1846 Cockwood, Yorkshire, England Wife Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, John abt 1846 Cockwood, Yorkshire, England Head Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, Joseph abt 1884 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, Kate abt 1883 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, Lilly S abt 1875 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, Ruth J abt 1873 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Caines, William abt 1869 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Son Doncaster York Beatrice is a younger daughter in the same family which fits with her being Frances' aunt. Thanks to everyone for their input - I think this one is in the bag! Can't believe the number of hours I've spent looking for this family and after posting my problem on here it was all unravelled in a few short hours.

Thank you David, June, Sarah & Val. I'm now pretty sure Ruth Jane Cairns who died 1894 is the one I want - I will order her death certificate to see if it proves any theories. Hopefully somebody really useful will have registered her death or it will give a home address that matches Frances' birth address! In speaking to my elderly aunt she thinks her gran (Ruth) probably did die in childbirth as her mum (Frances) had an unhappy childhood brought up by relatives. She also confirmed Beatrice married Arthur Kirton. So, having digested the above info. we can stop looking for Ruth Cairns on the 1901 census (as she died in 1894) but I still need to find Frances b.1893. Off to watch Donny Rovers v. Arsenal now - will check in later!

Kirton Arthur E Cairns Doncaster.9c 1626 Marriage Sep 1912 to Cairns Beatrice Kirton Doncaster.9c 1626 Marriage Sep 1912 Val

Those also look to be of interest. Just turning up the notes I made on my last visit to the rellie. She has Beatrice marrying ? Kirton. I have just found a marriage Dep quarter 1912, Doncaster, vol 9c p1626 of Beatrice Cairns to Kirton but no forename! Anyone fill that one in? In the meantime I'm off to bed - work & school run still to do in the morning! Will update this thread tomorrow night. Thanks to all for your interest & input - much appreciated. ' night!

Hi Have found a Ruth Cairns on the 1881 census Jno Cairns H Mar 35 Engine Driver b. Oulwood w. wakefield Emma Ann Cairns 35 b. Doncaster Harry Cairns son ? b. Doncaster Wm Ramsden Cairns son 13 scholar b. Doncaster Sarah\Cairns dau 12 scholar b. Doncaster ****RUTH JANE CAIRNS dau 8 scholar b. Doncaster Lily Agnes Cairns 6 dau scholar b. Doncaster Wm Cairns Nephew 20 Engine cleaner b. Oulwood W Wakefield Also found a death 1894 June Quarter Ruth Jane Cairns age at death 21 Doncaster 9c pg 363 Don't know if any of this is relevant, but hope it's of some help. Sarah

Ruth Jane's family in 1901, there is a daughter Beatrice. Transcribed as Cavens, image looks like cairns to me. Beatrice Cavens abt 1889 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire Florrie Cavens abt 1895 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Doncaster Yorkshire Franics Cavens abt 1866 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter-in-law Doncaster Yorkshire Harry Cavens abt 1868 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Son Doncaster Yorkshire John Cavens abt 1846 Outwood, Yorkshire, England Head Doncaster Yorkshire John Cavens abt 1892 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Grandson Doncaster Yorkshire Joseph Cavens abt 1884 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Son Doncaster Yorkshire Laddie Cavens abt 1893 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Doncaster Yorkshire Ruth Cavens abt 1898 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Doncaster Yorkshire William Cavens abt 1869 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Son Doncaster Yorkshire

Yes June, that 1881 census image would fit with area and the Ruth J Cairns already mentioned. Will have to try and quiz rellie tomorrow to see if anything mentioned here will jog her memory!

The honest answer is that I really don't know! The Ruth J Cairns at 58 South Street looks promising - even though she's just plain Ruth on her daughter's birth certificate. I will have to quiz my husband's aunt about it being her death in 1894. She seems to think Frances had a sister/aunt (she favoured aunt) Beatrice and on freeBMD there is a birth for a Beatrice Cairns in Doncaster a few years before Frances. Thanks everyone for looking!

Ranked Search Results - 1881 England Census View Record Emma Ann Cairns abt 1846 Doncaster Wife 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Harry Cairns abt 1868 Doncaster Son 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Jno. Cairns abt 1846 Outwood Nr Wakefield Head 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Lily Agnes Cairns abt 1875 Doncaster Daughter 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Ruth Jane Cairns abt 1873 Doncaster Daughter 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Sarah Cairns abt 1871 Doncaster Daughter 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Wm. Cairns abt 1861 Outwood Nr Wakefield Nephew 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England View Record Wm. Ramsden Cairns abt 1869 Doncaster Son 7 East Street, Balby Cum Hexthorpe, Yorkshire, England how about this one June

There is a Ruth J Caines aged 18 at 58 South Street in 1891 and on FreeBMD there is a Ruth Jane Cairns died Jun qtr 1894 Doncaster aged 21.

What else do you know about Frances? Could she have been adopted? Any sibling? Grandparents names? etc Suzanne

Certainly not impossible to have a baby at 12. Happens all the time round where I live! But these Cairns are doing my head in! Thanks for the input!

Still looking for Frances and Ruth in 1901 but..... A longshot I know as this would have made Ruth only about 12 when she had a baby - not an impossibily? 1891 Census: Cairns, Andrew abt 1848 Edinburgh, Scotland Head Middlesborough Yorkshire Cairns, Mary abt 1853 Dunfermline, Scotland Wife Middlesborough Yorkshire Cairns, Davis abt 1873 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son Middlesborough Yorkshire Cairns, Edith abt 1879 Hull, Yorkshire, England Daughter Middlesborough Yorkshire >>>Cairns, Ruth abt 1881 Hull, Yorkshire, England Daughter Middlesborough Yorkshire Cairns, Tessie abt 1884 Hull, Yorkshire, England Daughter Middlesborough Yorkshire Cairns, Andrew abt 1887 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son Middlesborough Yorkshire Andrew s a boilermaker. Suzanne

Fresh pair of eyes required. Frances Amelia Cairns b. 1893 at home address of 5 South Street, Doncaster. Mother - Ruth Cairns - no occupation No father named on birth certificate but believe father was ? Fox. Have looked at 1891 census and 1901 census for no. 5 South Street, Doncaster but the family isn't living there. This side of the family still lives in the same area - are they just missing off the census? Know nothing at all about Ruth Cairns so any leads would be appreciated!