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Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 22 Dec 2005 17:26

I'm fed up ........ recieved a much awaited MC only to find its of no help at all.......... MC 13th Sept 1898 NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE.......William HOWELL aged 22 a Professional Actor.........Father Edward HOWELL a Professor of Music ( Deceased) . I have NO IDEA where William was born . His Bride Adrinne Cornelia HICKS aged 25 ( She was born in Camberwell Surrey and in 1891 was recorded as a Singer living with her mother Clementina and siblings) . Her father Julian Sherlock Bult HICKS a Scenic artist also deceased. Witnesses were a Charles & Winifred HOWELL.......... I can not find a William & Edward on any census let alone Charles & Winifred........ I know all about the HICKS side....... I can't even find William & Adrinne on 1901.......... pls if you have the time could you help? Any search for the HOWELL's on the census from Williams birth( est 1876 ) would be most appreciated..............thank you

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 22 Dec 2005 17:42

Hi Deborah, could this be them in 1881 (from family search website). Living in London but he is a professor of music. What do you think? Edward HOWELL Head M Male 35 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Professor Of Music Elizabeth HOWELL Wife M Female 41 Marylebone, Middlesex, England William HOWELL Son Male 4 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Scholar Mary CRAVEN Visitor W Female 40 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Bridget FLANAGAN Serv U Female 67 Limerick, Ireland General Servant Alice SHEPARD Serv U Female 21 St Pancras, Middlesex, England General Servant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 1 Mornington Crescent Census Place London, Middlesex, England

Georgina

Georgina Report 22 Dec 2005 17:46

Deborah how about these from the 1881 census.... Edward Howell abt 1846 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head 1 Mornington Crescent, St Pancras, London, England Elizabeth Howell abt 1840 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Wife 1 Mornington Crescent, St Pancras, London, England William Howell abt 1877 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Son 1 Mornington Crescent, St Pancras, London, Mary Craven abt 1841 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Visitor 1 Mornington Crescent, St Pancras, London, Bridget Flanagan abt 1814 Limerick, Ireland Servant 1 Mornington Crescent, St Pancras, London, Bridget Flanagan abt 1814 Limerick, Ireland Servant 1 Mornington Crescent, St Pancras, London, England Source information: RG11/0176 Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Regent'S Park ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 4 Page: 3 Edward is a professor of music? Georgina.

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Dec 2005 17:48

could this be Adrienne in 1901 Name: A Howell Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Patient Household: View other family members Gender: Female Civil parish: Coulsdon Ecclesiatical parish: Coulsdon St John the Evangelist County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG13/635 Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: London County Lunatic Asylum Folio: 145 Page: 14 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1

Paul

Paul Report 22 Dec 2005 17:52

For reference 1891 Hicks, Athus abt 1878 Peckham, Surrey, England Son Camberwell London Hicks, Bianca abt 1868 Peckham, Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell London Hicks, Clementina abt 1838 Dublin, Ireland Head Camberwell London Hicks, Cornelia abt 1872 Peckham, Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell London Hicks, Ivo abt 1880 Peckham, Surrey, England Son Camberwell London Hicks, Leonard abt 1876 Peckham, Surrey, England Son Camberwell London Hicks, Marie abt 1874 Peckham, Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell London Hicks, Raphael abt 1866 Peckham, Surrey, England Son Camberwell London

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 22 Dec 2005 17:56

Could this be a possible marriage in St Pancras? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1871 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Furness John Edgar Pancras 1b 2 Hakewild Elizabeth Pancras 1b 2 Howell Edward Pancras 1b 2 Radford Sarah Ann Pancras 1b 2 The only other Edward to Elizabeth around the time is in Manchester Cathedral. Must go, children nagging me for computer, Selena

Paul

Paul Report 22 Dec 2005 17:57

1871 Felix Hick abt 1870 Camberwell Son Camberwell St Giles Surrey Banchie Hicks abt 1868 Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell St Giles Surrey Clementina Hicks abt 1842 Dublin, Ireland Wife Camberwell St Giles Surrey George Hicks abt 1861 Lambeth Son Camberwell St Giles Surrey Gertrude Hicks abt 1865 Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell St Giles Surrey Manilla Hicks abt 1863 Lambeth Daughter Camberwell St Giles Surrey Ruthel Hicks abt 1866 Surrey, England Son Camberwell St Giles Surrey Sulian Hicks abt 1859 Lambeth Son Camberwell St Giles Surrey William Hicks abt 1837 Blington Head Camberwell St Giles Surrey Source information: RG10/725 Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Camberwell ED, institution, or vessel: 9a Folio: 15 Page: 23 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 82 GSU Number: 823350 William's occupation S??? Artist

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Dec 2005 17:58

nouthing to do with yours but couldn't believe name Frank F**k abt 1882 Croydon, Surrey, England Boarder Croydon Surrey View Record Jane L H F**k abt 1876 Hennington, Surrey, England Boarder Croydon Surrey View Record Sarah F**k abt 1846 Croydon, Surrey, England Boarder Croydon Surrey View Record Thomas W Howell abt 1866 Croydon, Surrey, England Son Croydon Surrey View Record William G Howell abt 1840 Croydon, Surrey, England Head Croydon Surrey but *in and it looks like that name too !!! Source information: RG13/642 Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Folio: 137 Page: 48 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 315 View original image

Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 22 Dec 2005 18:03

Oh my word I'm so excited I can not type LOL Selena & Georgina The 1881 census findings look very promising........ I have no idea why I couldn't see them...Why is it always easier for me to find other peoples ancestors and NOT MINE? lol......thank you very much for your time. Jeanette This also looks like a good lead that I could pursue....... although feel like I should be in the Lunatic Bin and not her right now . The fiasco this MC has caused me today ......... searching high and low my eyes hurt. Many thanks for your time....... very much appreciated. Paul Yes your on the right track thats my family in 1891. The spelling of the childrens name are wonderful at times.....poor Adrinne has been called Andrew in one census..her she is using her middle name. Mind you sex mix ups happen alot in this family..........her father was babtised a GIRL Julia and even appeared in 1841 & 1851 as Julia a daughter LOL.......... couldn't have more wrong as he/she went on to have 12 children :)) Thank you Paul for your help too. Many many thanks & Merry Kissmass to you all. A happy debi

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 19:39

birth of William (there is another one in 1879) - use his father's name as a checking point Name: Howell, William Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1876 District: Pancras (1837-1901) County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 13

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 19:49

1861 for Edward - father is a professor of music too. Both Ewdard's grandfathers there also - how lucky is that!! Bridget Flanegan abt 1816 Ireland Servant St Pancras Middlesex Arthur M Thomas Howell abt 1836 London, Middlesex, England St Pancras Middlesex >> Edward Howell abt 1846 London, Middlesex, England Son Fanny L Howell abt 1840 London, Middlesex, England Daughter >>James Howell abt 1811 Plymouth, Devon, England Head >>Mariette Howell abt 1813 London, Middlesex, England Wife Matilda A Howell abt 1842 London, Middlesex, England Daughter >>William Howell abt 1771 Plymouth, Devon, England Father Eliza Packer abt 1844 London, Middlesex, England >>Arthur Seguir abt 1781 Fra Nat B S Father-in-law

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 20:32

marriage of Edward and Maria from IGI JAMES HOWELL Male Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: MARIA TERESA SEQUIN Marriage: 20 AUG 1833 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: M001454 1829 - 1837

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 20:44

1851 for Arthur Seguin Sarah Buckney abt 1834 N Servant St Pancras Middlesex Matilda Roney abt 1818 N Sister-in-law St Pancras Middlesex Arthur Seguin abt 1781 British Subject, France Head St Pancras Middlesex Both Arthur and Matilda are annuitants

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 20:48

more details for Edward's mother from IGI. MARIA TERESA SEGUIN Female Event(s): Birth: 13 JAN 1811 Christening: 26 AUG 1814 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England Parents: Father: RALPH ARTHUR SEGUIN Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: C035245 1811 - 1814

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 20:51

Maria had a brother: ARTHUR EDWARD SHELDON SEGUIN Male Event(s): Birth: 07 APR 1809 Christening: 26 AUG 1814 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England Parents: Father: RALPH ARTHUR SEGUIN Mother: SARAH and a sister: FRANCES ARABELLA SEQUIN Female Event(s): Birth: 15 APR 1807 Christening: 22 JUL 1807 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England Parents: Father: ARTHUR SEQUIN Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: C035245 1807 - 1810

Christine

Christine Report 22 Dec 2005 20:56

Ralph's marriage RALPH ARTHUR SEGUIN Male Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: SARAH SMYTHE Marriage: 03 JUL 1806 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. M035243 1801 - 1806

Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 23 Dec 2005 08:35

Christine & Ozi You've done me a mini HOWELL tree........... oh my word how lovely , thank you so very much....... It's amazing the origins of how ones family starts isn't it? I felt sure that as my GG Aunt Adrinne Hicks was a Londoner she may have met William Howell in Newcastle as a Singer, thus my thoughts were that he was from Northumberland......... never occurred he would be just around the corner from her, thus they must have been touring together. Thank you very much for your time ( must have taken a while so I am very grateful ) Shall print this all off now , order certs and wait . Hope that you ALL have a lovely Christmas....thank you Georgina, Selina, Jeanette, Paul, Christine & Ozi bird Much happiness debi