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Hi, Come to a dead end with my line of LUMBS and I need to find out who my g.g.grandfather JOHN LUMB married in c 1843 , she was an Elizabeth but plenty of John Lumbs were married around this time to several Elizabeths?? This will also enable me to find out JOHNS parents , he was born 1820 in Barkisland but have been very unsuccessful in finding out who his parents are . Can I find out any more details apart from freebmd , Ancestry etc. Cannot go to records office etc as I live abroad.Is there anyone who can help? Please.

Did they have children ? .. if so, a childs birth cert will give Mum's maiden name. This will narrow down any search for the parents marriage. Elaine ;-) If you have them as a family on any early census ... tell us where and when .........

To clarify things.......is this the correct family in 1851? Elizabeth Lumb abt 1820 Barkisland, Yorkshire, England Wife Barkisland Yorkshire View Record George Lumb abt 1844 Barkisland, Yorkshire, England Son Barkisland Yorkshire View Record John Lumb abt 1820 Barkisland, Yorkshire, England Head Barkisland Yorkshire View Record Marmaduke Lumb abt 1850 Barkisland, Yorkshire, England Son Barkisland Yorkshire View Record Susy Lumb abt 1850 Barkisland, Yorkshire, England Daughter Barkisland Yorkshire Reg

Have you found them on the 1841 and 1851 censuses....did they move very far.....it may help pinpoint there place of marriage. Suzanne

I tried for Marmaduke's birth on Ancestry......not there, unfortunately. Reg

Well as they both comes from Barkisland and their children wree born there is makes sense that the marriage was in the Halifax distict (This narrows it down a bit). There is a marriage in 1842 to Elizabeth Binns. Suzanne

There are lots of chrisyenings in the area. This is the nearest by date. JOHN LUMB Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 OCT 1818 Luddenden, Yorkshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN LUMB Family Mother: PENELOPE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C107811 1813 - 1832 0990614 Film 6911032 Film Sheet: 00 Jim

Possible birth for Susy Births Sep 1849 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUMB Susey Halifax 22 272

Collect all Elizabeth's married to John Lumb in halifax and ask someone to check the 1841 census to see if there are Elizabeth's of those names living in Barkisland. (i.e. Elizabeth Binns) Suzanne

If there are several marriages of John Lumbs and Elizabeths, your only hope really is the birth cert of one of the children. Unfortunately, registration wasn't compulsory until 1875, so the births may not appear in the GRO records. Reg

PM from Pauline.......... Yes this is the correct family . My grandfather was Frederick who was born in 1852. Johns (g.g.grandfather)parents are a complete mystery, so many avenues but all wrong any help would be appreciated, Pauline............please reply on here by clicking on 'add reply' at top, so that everyone can see........... reg

Hi, Yes Reg this is the family and in 1852 my grandfather Frederick was born in Barkisland .

Thanks FC Michigan ,This is Susey so the right family but no info before JOHN LUMB birth in c1820

If you obtain the birth cert, it will have mum's maiden name......from that, you can find the marriage, which will, in turn, tell you John's father's name and occupation. That might help to trace his birth............. Reg

Thanks for info I will try and obtain one of the childrens birth certs but that is only going to give me the mum Elizabeths maiden name and then if I can then find the marriage certificate of John & Eizabeth did they ,in approx 1840s ,have to give the grooms parents name ???? Thanks Pauline

Hi Pauline, When you find the right marriage certificate it will only give the fathers name(if there was one) but that will hopefully narrow the search down. With any luck the wittnesses names may be of help also, might be a brother or sister. If there is no fathers name that will also help as you know you'll be looking for just a mother in the parish records.

Thanks everyone, Hopefully I will be able to find out who Johns mystery parents are , Anymore info from anyone would be very gratefully received, Pauline