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i would like to know who eliza ryder's parents were she was born in 1843 in ringmore devon and married issac foot (B) 1843 at horrabridge devon. issac foot and eliza ryder are the grandparents of michael foot (B)1913, hugh mackintosh foot who later became lord caradon and govenor of cyprus, dingle makintosh foot (b) 1905. if anyone can look up on the 1851 census and any other census would be very much appreciated. teresa

1851 Plymouth St Andrew Devon James Ryder abt 1813 Ringmore, Devon, England Head Mary Ryder abt 1813 Devon, England Wife Jane Ryder abt 1837 Devon, England Daughter James Ryder abt 1839 Devon, England Son Wm Ryder abt 1845 Devon, England Son John Ryder abt 1849 Devon, England Son Honor Ryder abt 1849 Devon, England Daughter >>>Eliza Ryder abt 1843 Devon, England Niece so that's not much help! nell

Her marriage cert would give her father's name and occupation. nell

Eliza is with an aunt and uncle in 1851 James RYDER Head M 38 M Lime Burner Ringmore-Dev Mary RYDER Wife M 38 F --- Ringmore-Dev Jane RYDER Daur - 14 F Serv Ringmore-Dev James RYDER Son - 12 M (Lime Burner) Ringmore-Dev John RYDER Son - 9 M Scholar Ringmore-Dev Wm. RYDER Son - 6 M Scholar Ringmore-Dev Honor RYDER Daur - 2 F --- Ringmore-Dev Eliza RYDER Niec - 8 F Scholar Ringmore-Dev Address: Sandy Cove, Plymouth Census Place: Plymouth St Andrew Plymouth, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1879 Folio: 596 Page: 51 FHL Film: 0221028 Sue

There are 51 Ryders born in Ringmore on the 1851 census. Several males about the right age to be Eliza's father. Sue

i know that eliza ryder's uncle was james ryder. could anyone look at an earlier census to see who is james ryder's parents were and siblings then hopefully i might beable to get eliza ryders father name that way. very much appreciated. teresa

On the 41 census James and wife Mary seem t o be living with an Elizabeth Ryder aged 70 Pauper. They also have children Jane 4 James 2 and George 1 Sue.

This may not be the right one but on the IGI an Arthur Ryder married Eliz. FARLEY 31 AUG 1798 Ringmore By Kingsbridge, Devon, England. The IGI doesn't have much later information for Ringmore Could these perhaps be the parents of James and of the father of Eliza? Sue

hi again, sorry for being a pain but could you look at a 1821 and 1831 census to see if james ryder had a brother called thomas ryder. james was (b) abt 1813.

The 41 is the earliest census. After that it's trawling through parish records! Sue

Get Eliza's birth certificate. Here are two possibles.......I'd go with the first if I were ordering. RYDER Eliza Jane Kingsbridge vol.9 p. 427 RYDER Elizabeth Jane Kingsbridge vol.9 p. 434 Kingsbridge District includes Ringmore. Sue

I saw that Kingsbridge birth and discounted it, as Eliza Jane is on the census in Kingsbridge reg district in 1851 and was born in Loddiswell. nell

i did not know there was not an earlier census than 1841. is there any way of looking for a eliza ryder (b) around 1843 in ringmore devon in the 1861 census if there is one.

I can't get the 1861 but perhaps someone has access. My Devon disc of the 1851 says Eliza was born in Ringmore. That Kingsbridge District registration is the March quarter of 1844 if you want to risk £7 and order it. Sue

thankyou so much for your information , this is all very much appreciated. teresa

1861 Edward Ryder abt 1803 Ringmore, Devon, England Head Ringmore Devon >> Elizabeth Ryder abt 1846 Ringmore, Devon, England Daughter Ringmore Devon Mary Ryder abt 1806 Ringmore, Devon, England Wife Ringmore Devon Marriage cert would give her father's name Name: FOOT, Isaac Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1869 District: Calne County: Wiltshire Volume: 5a Page: 126 FOOT, Isaac 1869 September Marriages Calne Wiltshire RYDER, Eliza 1869 September Marriages Calne Wiltshire

i have looked at the info i have had in the past of some possibilities. could someone find out if a charlotte triggs (B) 1789 in kingston devon married a george ryder and then could it be found out if james ryder (B)1813 in kingston devon was their son and any names of his brothers and sisters. this is probably too much to ask due to their birth years, but any kind of info is very much appreciated. teresa

Have you looked on the IGI (FamilySearch) ? www.familysearch.org They have lots of Births, Baptism's, Marriages and deaths ... many B4 1837. Devon is well covered. However, I can't get on IGI this morning ... server is down. When its running ... its FREE to search. Elaine ;-)