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The age fits better with this death, but it is later than you said he died, and again, in a funny place: Deaths Dec 1898 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gill Absalom 79 Skipton 9a 32 Kate.

I found this: Gill Absalom age 82 Dudley 6c 13 Death Q4 1878 The age is not correct, and Dudley is away from where he normally resided, but could there be two of them? I had a relative who died in Wales, but normally lived in London - she had been sent away to a hospital. Also, who ever registered his death could have got his age wrong. Suzy

He Married Twice his second Wife was called Eliza and she had 3 children, And he had 1 son called William and he Was my Great grandfather, I assume Absolem died between 1871 -1881 because eliza and her children moved back to southend and William moved to Bilston. It's when i Got back to Absolem Birth i Came unstuck His first wife Was called Mary i Think!!!!!!!!!!! Margaret

This is the family in 1851: Absolam Gill abt 1817 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Head Evesham St Lawrence Worcestershire Elora Gill abt 1851 Evesham, Worcestershire, England Daughter Evesham St Lawrence Worcestershire George Gill abt 1847 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Son Evesham St Lawrence Worcestershire Jane Gill abt 1849 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Evesham St Lawrence Worcestershire Mary Gill abt 1818 Prestbury, Gloucestershire, England Wife Evesham St Lawrence Worcestershire So, they must have married probably before 1847; so only 10 years to check on Ancestry!! Suzy

Absalom & sisters 1. ABSALOM GILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 02 NOV 1817 Painswick, Gloucester, England 2. JANE LUCY GILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 OCT 1815 Painswick, Gloucester, England 3. SARAH GILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 16 OCT 1821 Painswick, Gloucester, England

Well done Penny. Suzy

You should still check that Absalom's father's name on his marriage certificate is Charles, though! To make sure you don't set off on completely the wrong lines... Kate.

Thank you Suzy and everyone That has been a Great Help

This is probably parents marriage CHARLES GILL Male : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: MARY MARFELL Family Marriage: 05 AUG 1815 Painswick, Gloucester, England

Margeret If you look at Absolem on the 1871, the place of birth actually says Painswick, so I think we have our man. Have you found him on any other census? The 1871 seems a bit confusing vis-a-vis his children and step-children. Am trying to work out when he may have married. Suzy

Kate I thought that too. Maybe the 1779 date is Mary's year of birth. Suzy

Sorry, so they got married in 1779 and they had a child in 1821? Does not compute... That is another LDS member entry and should be taken with a pinch of salt! Kate.

Oh, I had a look and both those baptisms are 'form submitted by a member of the LDS church', so you definitely need to check the parish records. Am I right in thinking that Absalom would have got married after 1837? If so, then you should be able to get his marriage certificate, which would confirm his father's name. Kate.

My guess would be that the two Absaloms are the same one, perhaps the first date is a private baptism and the second date when he was 'brought to church'? A check of the parish records would confirm this. Kate.

Their marriage: Charles GILL Birth: Abt. 1754 Of, Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Marriage(s): Spouse: Mary CLIFFORD (AFN: 180T-VK1) Family Marriage: Abt 1779 Of, Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Suzy THIS IS WRONG - PENNY HAS FOUND A MORE LIKELY ONE

If that is correct, this would be his sister: SARAH GILL Female Birth: Christening: 16 OCT 1821 Painswick, Gloucester, England Parents: Father: CHARLES GILL Family Mother: MARY Suzy

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ABSALOM GILL Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 NOV 1817 Painswick, Gloucester, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: CHARLES GILL Family Mother: MARY

Hi Margaret, Could any of these two be him. Betty ABSALOM GILL Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 21 NOV 1817 Painswick, Gloucester, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: CHARLES Family Mother: MARY GILL ABSALOM GILL Male ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Margaret Is this him? ABSALOM GILL Male Birth: Christening: 02 NOV 1817 Painswick, Gloucester, England Parents: Father: CHARLES GILL Family Mother: MARY Birth certificates are only available for births after 1837, I'm afraid. Suzy

My Great Great Grandfather has an unusual Name so you would think it would be Easy to find out his Parents names No!!!!. His name is Absolem Gill and he was born in Hamwick, Gloucestershire, Year 1819 Please can anyone help even if its a birth certficate no. that i can get a copy. Margaret