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Oh, Avril's thread has disappeared. I do hope she is okay.

Laura, Thank you so much for your generous offer! I have sent you a PM. Chris

Yes, Avril was offering lookups, if she was able to visit, and I did add my request to her thread, but she was obviously too busy. I now how events can overtake you and alter your plans. Chris

Wow, I've been struggling with this since 1st April, with little headway. Suddenly overnight and whilst I've been at work today the replies have doubled from 8 (inc 4 of mine!) to 16! Please accept a combined response to the many helpful points raised. The details of the church are from the FFHS website. (http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/index.shtml) Pay per view, but used carefully, worth every penny. Thanks for the tip about Greenhill. I assumed it meant Derby, but now feel Derby must be the county description. Is Greenhill a village, or the name of the chapel? I did try the Record Office, but 'Record Office staff can only undertake searches on your behalf under the terms of our fee-paid search service.' I also tried the registrar's office (being an eternal optimist) but would need to buy the certificate. When my bank balance increases to match my genealogical aspirations there are dozens, if not hundreds of certs I'd like to buy / must have!! In the meantime I'm grateful to the generous souls who give their time so freely. I am not a scrounger - I do my best to help with Suffolk enquiries whenever I am able to. Thanks for all the interest and suggestions, Chris (of the female variety, by the way!)

Over the motorway ? Sounds as if your next door to me Laura ?????? I live Matlock side of the Motorway .! Have replied to your PM. :-) We must meet up flower xx Elaine ;-)

Avril was offering lookups.

I really want to know how he knows which church they got married in!

I'm keeping a close eye on this thread, for the simple reason that I live directly opposite: Greenhill Prestbyterian Chapel ... but I'm 13 miles from Derby ........ so I'm intrigued to know if there are two churches of same name ! Well spotted Laura !! you'll have to have a wonder round more often babe. Elaine ;-) Derbyshire Records Office don't open on Saturdays ..... Derbyshire Record Office Tel: 01629 580000 Fax: 01629 57611 Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/recordoffice/ County Archivist : Dr Margaret O'Sullivan Access information Open : Mon-Fri 9.30-4.45 (some restrictions 12.30-2) Closed : Bank holidays, and Tuesdays following bank holidays; one day between Christmas and New Year The Derbyshire Local Studies Library is a seperate office, situated about 5 minutes away: The County Hall Local Studies library is now open on regularly one Saturday morning each month from 9am to 12.30pm. 17 December 2005 and the second Saturday of the month through 2006: 14 January, 11 February, 11 March, 8 April, ** 13 May, ** 10 June, 8 July, 12 August, 9 September, 14 October, 11 November, 9 December 2006. Laura, there aren't open on Saturday 20th ......

hiya you could order the cert with fathers name/occupation as ref checking, then you would know for certain Julie

Going by the Church it may be unlikely the register would be held by Derbyshire Archives. Perhaps you could e-mail and check first also for a small charge perhaps smaller than £7.00 they could copy the record for you. PS You must be clever to know the church without the cert!

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Susannah RANSON, born 11 Mar 1854 in Bury St Edmunds, was my Gt grandfather's sister. For years I have searched to find what became of her after December 1871, when she witnessed her brother's wedding. The only Susannah RANSON event I have been able to find that fits the known facts, is the marriage at Derby Greenhill United Presbyterian Church to Walter SMITH. This also fits with later census entries, etc. 1881 census: Bury St Edmunds St Mary, 3 Mayne Water Lane Walter SMITH Head M 25 Bury S Eds Joiner Susannah SMITH Wife M 27 Bury S Eds Harry SMITH Son 3 Derby, England Alice SMITH Daur 1 Bury S Eds This gives the link with Bury and Derbyshire. Another daughter, Lilly, was born in 1884. Susannah died in 1887. In 1891 Walter lived in Cambridgeshire. I am 99% certain that this must be my Susannah, but info from the marriage entry would just be the proof (or otherwise!) that I need. Chris

How have you got back to Walter Smith and Suzanne Ranson please ? Have you got a child of theirs on a later census ? Have you got Walter and Suzanne on a later census ? if so, which one and where are they ? What year was Walter Smith born please / occupation etc ... Elaine ;-)

.... unless I'm lucky enough to find someone who can look at the church records for me ... fingers crossed!

you will have to buy the cert for that info

Thank you very much for all your time and trouble. The Susannah in Bury St Edmunds is my relative. I have all census entries to 1871, and details of her death and burial, plus 1881 census, if it IS my Susannah that married Walter Smith. But before I jump to conclusions, I am seeking confirmation that the marriage to Walter Smith is the right one - to do that I would like a check on father's name. Thank you again for all your efforts, Chris

Chris Have you not got any census details, that can track her back with? age, birth area or childrens names to help track her. Was she born in Bury St Edmunds, Sufflok? there was one Susannah Ranson c1854 that may fit her details and possibly married a Walter Smith, of course only a MC can absolutely confirm her fathers details. 'Her' family in 1851 (she wasn't born yet) Ann Ranson abt 1823 Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England Wife Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Charles Ranson abt 1822 Rushbrook, Suffolk, England Head Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Charles Ranson abt 1843 Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England Son Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Elizabeth Ranson abt 1845 Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England Daughter Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Isaac Ranson abt 1847 Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England Son Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk William Ranson abt 1849 Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England Son Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Extra kids in 1861 ( Mother now a Widow) Louesey Ransome abt 1852 Bury St Edmunds Daughter Bury St Edmunds St James Suffolk >>>> Susannah Ransome abt 1854 Bury St Edmunds Daughter Bury St Edmunds St James Suffolk 1881 Alice Smith abt 1880 Bury S Eds Daughter Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Harry Smith abt 1878 >>Derbyshire<< England Son Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Susannah Smith abt 1854 Bury S Eds Wife Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Walter Smith abt 1856 Bury S Eds Head Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk 1891 Alice Smith abt 1881 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Pauper St Mary Suffolk Arthur Smith abt 1882 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Pauper St Mary Suffolk Henry Smith abt 1878 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Pauper St Mary Suffolk Death, Susannah Smith (birth abt 1855) 1887 Apr-May-Jun Bury St Edmund Death Possible? Walter Smith (birth abt 1852) 1888 Jul-Aug-Sep Ipswich Suffolk Carrie Chris, I couldn't sleep and this helped keep me from being bored:))

I would be very grateful if anyone could check the details of the following marriage: December Quarter 1876 Susannah RANSON married Walter SMITH at Derby Greenhill United Presbyterian Church I particularly want to know the bride's father. Many thanks, Chris