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Pen Many thanks. St Lukes doesn't seem quite the right area, but I have made a note and will have a good look round when I can. Not 100% sure this is MY Leah, but have yet to find alternative! Thanks again for your time and trouble. Nell

would you believe it.....was just about to give up and though I'd try one more year... Marriage entry Rachel Hart Aaron Nathan March 1853 St Luke 1b 649 Pen x

Pen Well, good to know that the Jews were just as awkward as the gentiles, when it comes to family trees! nell

Your welcome nell - Had a look on the 81 and it could well be Aaron as there was a family with those names in that area - think the addy was 5 BELL COURT though, not 100%. Their birth years were out though. Have not been able to locate a marriage for Rachel and ? (Aaron Nathan). And I can not spot Aaron on the 71 and Rachel was down as unmarried on the 71 was'nt she, lol. Yours are worse than mine. Pen x

Pen I've just looked. I think the head of the family is Aaron. Lea looks like my Leah although her age is out. It seems to be the same lot as on 1871 at the same address. shame it doesn't specify Lea/h's relationship to Aaron, but I think it should be mother in law. Many thanks. Nell

Julie Yes I do, thanks. Pen Off to look at the image now. Many thanks to all who've helped. Nell

Hi Nell Have looked at the 61 and found this one:- View Record Anna Nathan abt 1833 Spitalfields Head Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Catherine Nathan abt 1858 Spitalfields Daughter Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Jea Hark Nathan abt 1808 Spitalfields Wife *** Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Julia Nathan abt 1856 Spitalfields Daughter Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Lea Nathan abt 1853 Spitalfields Daughter Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Moses Nathan abt 1860 Spitalfields Son Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Rachel Nathan abt 1835 Spitalfields Wife Spitalfields Middlesex View Record Sava Nathan abt 1848 Spitalfields Daughter Spitalfields Middlesex ****This one reads Lea Hart - she is listed under the baby Moses It only reads Lea Hart NOT Jea Hark Nathan Source information: RG9/266 Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 123 Page: 47 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 224 GSU Number: 542603 ***I dont think the head is Anna - can not make out the name occupation general dealer 17 Bell Lane and in the column for relationship it looks like W. Pen -x-

There was a Phillips family on the next page in the census image I was looking at before, and there was a Leah phillips, but the year was about 1805 I think. I'll see if I can find it and post the details. Probably nothing, but always worth a long shot just in case!! Sorry, the birth year much later, so probably no link: Here it is just in case. It was the combo of Leah & Moses that made me think there might be something there. (Margaret!) Sarah Abrahams abt 1786 Holland Boarder Spitalfields Maria Cooper abt 1842 Southwark; Bow Servant Spitalfields Alexander Phillips abt 1861 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields Benjamin Phillips abt 1859 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields Betsy Phillips abt 1853 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Daughter Spitalfields Ezekiel Phillips abt 1857 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields Leah Phillips abt 1833 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Wife Spitalfields Moses Phillips abt 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields Philip Phillips abt 1821 Holland Head Spitalfields Sarah Phillips abt 1851 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Daughter Spitalfields

hiya helen I can assume you have this? Name: Leah Hart Birth Date: abt 1789 Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 100 District: Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 187 (click to see others on page) regards Julie

ooh Lady Liberty. I got excited as Phillips is the maiden surname of Leah's grandson's wife, although Phillips and Hart are the equivalent of Smith & Jones in the Jewish world! Worth investigating, thanks. nell

Nell Clutching at straws perhaps! No forename on image and stated as unmarried, no occupation given either....68yrs written in 'female' box.. Phoebe is married, no occupation given.. Infant is 1month.. Address, Neville street, Lambeth. 1861: >>View Record Hart abt 1793 London, England Lodger Lambeth Surrey View Record Hart Infant. abt 1861 Lambeth, Surrey, England Son Lambeth Surrey View Record Phoebe Phillips abt 1831 Middlesex, England Head Lambeth Surrey RG9/355 Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Folio: 88 Page: 25 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 123 GSU Number: 542621

Margaret & Nicky (not sure if you are both helping!) Thank you for Lipman - I already have that entry, but its good to have it confirmed. Not sure the Hart family you found with Ann & Isaac are connected. The trouble is that all the names (even the fancy Rosetta) occur in many Jewish families, but it is suggestive and I will make a note of it. I don't know much about Leah or her husband. He was called Moses Hart and was a fishmonger at 101 Middlesex Street, where his son Solomon Zalig and grandson Zusman (my husband's great great grandfather) worked. I haven't found a marriage yet, though I intend to have a look at the Jewish records on microfilm when I next get up to London. thank you for your help so far. nell

Not having much luck with Leah so far. What was her husband called? I wonder if I might find her records on IGI, might have a death listed? Do you know what her maiden name was?

1861: This family is living in Bell Lane Spitalfields: Ann Hart abt 1851 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Daughter Spitalfields Isaac Hart abt 1833 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields (Butcher) Joseph Hart abt 1803 London, England Head Spitalfields (Jeweller) Michael Hart abt 1839 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields (Cigar Maker) Moses Hart abt 1849 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields Rosetta Hart abt 1810 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Wife Spitalfields Address is 19 Bell Lane, I have checked 17 and a 'Regan' family is living there. Source information: RG9/266 Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 128 Page: 1 Household schedule number: 5 GSU Number: 542603 Possibly a connnection?

1861: LIPMAN (still looking for Leah) Benjamin Hart abt 1846 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Whitechapel Hannah Hart abt 1821 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Wife Whitechapel Henry Hart abt 1859 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Whitechapel Leah Hart abt 1852 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Daughter Whitechapel ---Lipman Hart abt 1822 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Head Whitechapel Michael Hart abt 1848 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Whitechapel Tobey Hart abt 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Whitechapel Woolf Hart abt 1854 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Whitechapel

Looking for husband's Jewish gt x 4 grandmother, LEAH HART. 1841 HO107/0717/8/~F16 Whitechapel, Ossulstone, Tower Hamlets >>>>Hart Leah 45 Hart Sarah 20 Hart Solomon 20 Hart Lepman 15 Hart Benjamin 15 Hart Rachel 14 Hart Judah 10 Hart Michael 7 Hart Joseph 3 [no sign of Leah's husband here. He was running a fishmongers in 101 Middlesex Street in 1836 according to Pigot's directory]] 1851 HO107/1543 626 Page: 41 Bell Lane, Spitalfields Middlesex Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Artillery >>>Leah Hart abt 1795 London Head widow 56 Sarah Hart abt 1820 London Daughter 31 Rachel Hart abt 1828 London Daughter 23 L [or T] Hart 1818 London Son 33 general dealer Lippsom[or Lipson?] Hart 1822 London Son Joseph Hart abt 1824 London Son Benjamin Hart abt 1826 London Son John Hart abt 1830 London Son Michael Hart abt 1835 London Son [lines underneath all the other occupations] 1861 -? Maybe: 1871 RG10/509 Folio: 7 Page: Reg district: Whitechapel Sub-reg district: Spitalfields ED Board of Works 17 Bell Lane, Christchurch Spitalfields London [Bell Lane location above] Leah Hart abt 1791 Middlesex, widow 80 general dealer Rachel Nathan abt 1833 Middlesex, Daughter 38 Unm.* Leah Nathan abt 1854 Middlesex, Daughter 17 [ditto underneath general dealer] Julia Nathan abt 1856 Middlesex, Daughter 15 [ditto underneath general dealer] Katey Nathan abt 1858 Middlesex, Daughter 13 [ditto underneath general dealer] Polly Nathan abt 1863 Middlesex, 8 scholar Moses Nathan abt 1860 Middlesex, Son 11 Benjamin Nathan abt 1868 Middlesex Son 3 Michael Nathan abt 1870 Middlesex, Son 1 [address is still Bell Lane, but some names and ages don't correspond, these Nathans are presumably Leah's grandchildren, by her daughter Rachel. ] *There's a Rachel Nathan on 1861 census, b. 1833, but with parents Aaron & Ann Nathan, brother Henry and sister Rosa, living in Bishopsgate.

but almost as bad!