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I have the marriage cert of Benjamin Bradshaw (shoemaker) and Emma Hawkins on 11 March 1852 in St Mary Newington, Surrey. I don't have either of their ages. I also have the birth cert of their son James Bradshaw on 20 March 1857 also in St Mary Newington. Could some kind person please see if they can find them in the 1861 census. Any sign of either Benjamin or Emma on 1851 would also be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Ron

Think this must be them! Benjamin Bradshaw abt 1828 St Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head Benjamin Bradshaw abt 1853 Newington, Surrey, England Son Emma Bradshaw abt 1830 Newington, Surrey, England Wife George Bradshaw abt 1861 Newington, Surrey, England Son Richard Bradshaw abt 1855 Newington, Surrey, England Son Abert Reading abt 1834 Newington, Surrey, England Civil parish: Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 11 Camden Street, Occupation: Shoemaker Source information: RG9/343 Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Folio: 29 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 113 GSU Number: 542619

here it is Benjamin Bradshaw abt 1828 St Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head Newington St Mary Surrey Benjamin Bradshaw abt 1853 Newington, Surrey, England Son Newington St Mary Surrey Emma Bradshaw abt 1830 Newington, Surrey, England Wife Newington St Mary Surrey George Bradshaw abt 1861 Newington, Surrey, England Son Newington St Mary Surrey Richard Bradshaw abt 1855 Newington, Surrey, England Son Newington St Mary Surrey Abert Reading abt 1834 Newington, Surrey, England Boarder Newington St Mary Surrey

Thanks Margaret and Nicky I wonder where James is? Do you have the address please?

Sorry. I jumped the gun and see the address now.

This is the only Emma Hawkins of approx age born Surrey who appears on 1851............ Benjn Hawkins abt 1833 Lambeth, Surrey, England Son Lambeth Surrey View Record Emma Hawkins abt 1829 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter Lambeth Surrey View Record William Hawkins abt 1803 Hunton bridge ?? Head Lambeth Surrey I'm not familiar with areas in and around London, so don't know if it is 'way out' Reg

I saw that too Reg, I've expanded the search another 5 years and only one other comes up, living in Reading: Elizabeth Brewer abt 1784 Felstead, Essex, England Wifes Sister Ann Hawkins abt 1791 Felstead, Essex, England Wife Emma Hawkins abt 1826 Guildford, Surrey, England Daughter Jane Matilda Hawkins abt 1839 Cripplegate, Middlesex, England Niece William Hawkins abt 1791 Dagenham, Essex, England Head Hannah Hornsby abt 1836 Little Waltham, Essex, England Servant Elizabeth Prader abt 1786 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Lodger

Thanks Reggie This could well be my Emma. Lambeth is next to Newington (now part of Southwark). Could I have address please.

1871 JAMES Actually GRANDSON on image James Bradshaw abt 1856 Newington, St Mary Son Charles Partridge abt 1842 Lambeth Head Elizabeth Partridge abt 1838 Islington Wife Could this be your James? Just wondering where the Partridge link comes in.

Have to call it a night now, getting in trouble lol! Good luck, I'll check back tomorrow if I can to see how you've got on. Want to see where James is now! Margaret

Could well be him, but I'm afraid I don't know about the Partridge connection. Will have to do some digging. Can I be a pain and ask for address please

Margaret I have James (my gt grandfather) in 1881 census as a boarder with Elizabeth Kalthoeber 44 and Elizabeth Kalthoeber 24 whom he subsequently married (my gt Grandmother) at 68 Henshaw St Newington. Don't have them on 1891 but have them again on 1901 with Jane, James and Ada (my grandmother) at 18 Pages Walk, Guinness Trust Buildings Bermondsey. Any help with 1891 would be appreciated. Night, night Ron

1871 census View Record James Bradshaw abt 1856 Newington, St Mary Son St Mary Newington London View Record Charles Partridge abt 1842 Lambeth Head St Mary Newington London View Record Elizabeth Partridge abt 1838 Islington Wife St Mary Newington London zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I have looked at image, could be A SON (adopted?) Look at the age difference.

Thanks so much to everyone who has contributed. Can I please ask for two things? 1. Address on 1851 census that Reggie found for Emma Hawkins above and whether the ?? after Hunton Bridge for William Hawkins could be Herts or Hertfordshire. 2. Address on 1871 census that Margaret and Nicky found for James Bradshaw with the Partridge family Thanks Ron

Good morning............. 1851 Address: 16 Granby Buildings. Emma is aged 7mths. William's birthplace is Lambeth.........the Ancestry transcriber must have been imbibing!! William's occ is Potter's Labourer 1871 address: 19 ?Henshaw? St. Reg

Good morning Reggie My saving grace again. Looks good re:Henshaw St. Will see if I can find Granby Buildings. Does the Hunton Bridge location look like Herts or Hertfordshire in 1851?

I've amended my latest posting re 1851......... Reg

Thanks Reggie That's brilliant. Regards Ron

I've looked again at the information supplied yesterday and I have a doubt about the 1851Emma Hawkins that Reggie found for me. The marriage cert of Benjamin Bradshaw and Emma Hawkins in 1852 shows Emma's father as James not William. Do you think this might be a mistranscription (either in the census or on the marriage cert) or perhaps that Emma wasn't in Surrey for the 1851 census? Any help greatly appreciated Ron