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Hyde-ing in 1861!
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 20:41 |
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Might be worth getting hold of Alfred's too - that way would know who Mary's father was, just in case children are staying with her parents! |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 20:29 |
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Think I will get hold of that cert. Thanks again for all your help, off for a large glass of something alcoholic after all that brain work!! |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 20:24 |
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I would go with that. Alf's year of birth changes somewhat over the census years. Might be worth asking for a parish look-up for Shepperton, to see if he was christened, or if Sarah did marry Charles Froude, but, like you, I doubt it. Wonder what it says on the marriage cert. (to George Groom) |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 20:14 |
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So.......just checking, can we presume that 1851 Alfred H Groom, is Alfred Hyde (Groom) it's not another one is it???? , you'll have to catch up with the books at the weekend! (Also bet Sarah Hyde never married Alfred's father Charles Froud.) |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 20:11 |
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OK then, but this is sooo much more fun! (Still doesn't explain where Alfred was in 1861 though!) |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 20:01 |
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You're a star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks so much, now get those books back from the garden, you should be studying!!!! jenny |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:59 |
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Bingo! George Benjamin Groom 1840 Oct-Nov-Dec Staines Middlesex Sarah Hyde 1840 Oct-Nov-Dec Staines Middlesex Name: George Benjamin Groom Year of Registration: 1840 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Staines County: Middlesex Volume: 3 Page: 271 Sarah married George Groom - he's Alfred's stepfather. Hence the Hyde boys staying with grandparents in 1861 etc. |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:55 |
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Only 2nd marriage but..............just to maybe add to the confusuin: Alfred married again later as in 1871 census. He has an older daughter living with him who could not possibly be wife number 2's. Daughter is Emma Hyde, have her birth cert...father Alfred Froud Hyde. Alfred's 2nd marraige shows his father as Charles Froud. On IGI is a marriage Alfred Fronde Hyde to Mary Plumbridge 1851. |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:54 |
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IGI has this for Alfred's marriage, nothing that I can see for his birth as a Hyde (or Groom) ALFRED FRONDE HYDE Male Marriages: Spouse: MARY PLUMBRIDGE Marriage: 28 SEP 1851 Walton On Thames, Surrey, England Ancestry: Name: Alfred Oriude Hyde Year of Registration: 1851 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Chertsey County: Surrey Volume: 4 Page: 70 (think this should be 90 - faded on image) On image on ancestry for Mary Plumbridge, page is 90 |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:42 |
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Fllippin' computer keeps crashing - ever since I downloaded latest security update from Windows!! Books now thrown out window, while trying to sort this lot out!! 1841 census shows George Groom as carpenter, Sarah a dressmaker Have you managed to find Alfred's marriage? The cert would have his father's name. |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:38 |
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Really can't work this one out, don't leave me now Christine!!!!! Jenny |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:30 |
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1841 - the plot thickens!! George Groom abt 1806 Middlesex, England Shepperton Middlesex Sarah Groom abt 1806 Middlesex, England Shepperton Middlesex Alfred Hyde abt 1831 Middlesex, England Shepperton Middlesex |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:25 |
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1851 for the Grooms Benjamin Barkin abt 1833 Chertsey, Surrey, England Nephew Walton on Thames Surrey Alfred H Groom abt 1828 Shepperton, Middlesex, England Son (carpenter) Geoge Groom abt 1802 Smithfield, Middlesex, England Head (carpenter) Sarah Groom abt 1810 Shepperton, Middlesex, England Wife |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 19:23 |
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The fact that Sarah Groom is born in Shepperton, as is Alfred Hyde (snr) is interesting. Could his mother have remarried george Groom. Going to look at 1851. |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 18:53 |
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Alfred senior married Mary Plumridge, how would the 'Grooms' be grandparents of their children ????? Now I am really confused as that cerainly looks like the Hyde boys.Jenny |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 18:37 |
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1871 has Alfred joining his brother (s) with grandparents George B Groom abt 1802 Little Britain, London, England Head Walton on Thames Surrey Sarah Groom abt 1805 Shepperton, Middlesex, England Wife >> Alfred Jno Hyde abt 1860 Esher, Surrey, England Grandson >>Charles Hyde abt 1856 Esher, Surrey, England Grandson George Hyde abt 1851 Walton on Thames, Surrey, England Grandson |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 18:25 |
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Christine, glad you are not studying! Did not have that, many thanks, Jenny |
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Christine | Report | 21 Apr 2006 18:09 |
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Sorry - no show for me either, but they must be somewhere as Alfred F appears later! Found this, which you probably have already: Name: Sarah Hyde Birth Date: abt 1856 Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 27 District: Chertsey County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 31 |
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Jenny | Report | 21 Apr 2006 17:44 |
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Thanks for trying Lesley, glad it's not just me!! Jenny |
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* Loopy Lesley | Report | 21 Apr 2006 17:43 |
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Sorry But cnat find any of the other on 1861 have searched for just first name and Birth place and nothing Lesley |
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