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I've been doing a bit of Dudley research myself recently. Dudley is definately Worcestershire for Census etc. but is right on the boarder with Staffordshire and Shropshire. Warwickshire is also close. Some records are a bit muddled as are some researchers!

Maureen I was so upset about all your work ending up wrong I didn't notice the Julia registration at the top. Thank you for that, I do seem to get mostly 'no matches' on BMD. Reg, spot on - Julia Lee with same reference number. Thank you all very much. Anne

Maureen, all that work!! I'm devastated for you having to rule him out. Reg, I'm off to check right now. Where is Stourbridge - like which county? And why is Dudley in two counties? Anne.

Possible marriage.......... OND 1863 Stourbridge 62/364 Isaiah Hatley 'Other half' would need to be checked Reg

Name: Julia An[Ei]Tta Lee Year of Registration: 1843 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Dudley County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 248 Going to have to rule out this chap 1851 Name: Isaac Hateley Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Walsall Foreign Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Source information: HO107/2023 Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 1i Folio: 326 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 30 GSU Number: 87428-87429 1861 Name: Isaac Hateley Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Walsall Foreign Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Source information: RG9/2016 Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Folio: 11 Page: 17 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 91 GSU Number: 542903 1871 mistranscribed Name: Isaac Gately Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Source information: RG10/2963 Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Folio: 51 Page: 41 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 193 GSU Number: 836428 Royanah Gately abt 1840 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife Alice Gately abt 1865 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Rosanah Gately abt 1870 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sarah Elizth Gately abt 1866 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter William Thomas Gately abt 1867 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Some of the births registered could be for this family Maureen

Probable birth of one son........ Name: Jacob Hateley Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Stockton County: Co. Durham, North Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 10a Page: 187 Reg

Jim, would you mind explaining to me how you do your searches for births and deaths? All I seem to get is 'sorry, no matches'. Anne

No, no marriage date because I can't find where they are. I was trying for Lancs. because som William is shown as born in Liverpool c1866. I'd love to be a definite connection because they ended up a bit posh. They had a servant ----instead of being one. Anne

This could quite well be a son. So gives them a location for 1873 death View Record Isaiah Hately abt 1872 1873 Jul-Aug-Sep Stockton Co. Durham, North Riding Of Yorkshire

Thank you Jim So he is real then? Julia is circa 1843 and on the first census is shown as Julia Anetta.

birth? Name: Isaiah Hately Year of Registration: 1842 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Dudley County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 273

Yes, I have Julia Lee on 51 and 61 with her family in Dudley. But cant find her in 71 when the rest of the family are all in Durham. HIM I can't find anywhere for 51 61 and 71. And to think I was so pleased to come across a more unusual name LOL Anne P.S. I'll have to ask my son about the cut and paste bit.

What year was Julia born please ? .... have you searched for her on 71, 61 etc ?

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1901 Isaiah Hateley born Worcs c 1846 living in Willington Durham 1891 Isaiah Hately born Worcs. c 1850 living in Willington Durham 1881 same guy living in Esh Durham All with wife Julia also from Worcs. 1871 Their child William is with his grandparents William and Matilda Lee in Crook with Billy Row. William is shown as Halely born in Liverpool. I cannot find Isaiah or Julia anywhere on 1871. I have just completed a search on Isaiah and Isiah without a last name in all available counties with no luck so I really think it's time to ask for help. It's only 10:45 here so way too early to hit the bottle !!! Anne

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