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Would anyone be kind enough to check the 1861 or 1871 census please for Birmingham. I'm looking for Hephzibah Chessell born 1856 Chorlton/Gorton Lancashire. I've found her on 1881,1891 & 1901 census when she was married to Samuel Whittaker. I have a name on the 1861 census as Hephsibah Chassels aged 9 in Birmingham. Surely there can't be many Hephzibah's, it's such an unusual name. The age should only be 5 & not 9. She doesn't appear on the census in Lancashire. Thanks Sue

Name: Hephzibah Chessell Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Chorlton County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 820 Samuel Whittaker 1881 just for reference Name: Hephzabah Whittaker Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Wife Where Born: Gorton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Droylsden County/Island: Lancashire Street address: Clayton Lane Trafalgar Pl Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Cotton Weaver Unemployed Source information: RG11/4042 Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne Sub registration district: Audenshaw ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 101 Page: 19 GSU Number: 1341966 Samuel Whittaker abt 1857 Clayton, Lancashire, England Head Two children Ann and Henry Found this in 1871 Name: Elizabeth Chessell Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Gorton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Gorton Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG10/3982 Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Folio: 93 Page: 5 Household schedule number: 21 GSU Number: 846091 Alexander Chessell abt 1828 Nottinghamshire, England Head Henry Chessell abt 1864 Gorton, Lancashire, England Son Marthia Bentley abt 1836 Ardwick, Lancashire, England Sister-in-law Did a person search for 1861 census on 1837online and nothing came up for Alexander or Elizabeth or Hephzibah Can find a possible match for Martha Bentley on 1861 in the right area Name: Martha Bentley Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Gorton Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG9/2875 Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 108 Page: 12 Household schedule number: 58 GSU Number: 543042 Jacob Bentley abt 1787 Beeston, Yorkshire, England Head Sarah Bentley abt 1788 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England Wife Maureen

Hi Susan, Have looked for your Hephsibah Chassels aged 9 on the 1861 census......I can't find her !!! Am I spelling it right, the spelling that was on the 1861? I have found her birth Sept., Qtr 1856 Hephzibah Chessell Chorlton 8c 462 Bye for now Regards Vera

Vera, I could not find that entry in 1861. Maureen

Hi Maureen, Thanks for letting me know. I am glad it wasn't just me then !!!! Have even tried to find Alexander and Henry on the 1861, no luck with them either. Lets hope Susan gets back to us. I am intrigued !!!! Regards Vera

How about.... 1861 Ephseba Cheshill abt 1857 Manchester Daughter Ardwick Lancashire Frances Cheshill abt 1859 Manchester Daughter Ardwick Lancashire John Cheshill abt 1828 Nottinghamshire, England Head Ardwick Lancashire John Cheshill abt 1854 Manchester Son Ardwick Lancashire Martha Cheshill abt 1861 Manchester Daughter Ardwick Lancashire Mary Cheshill abt 1828 Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Wife Ardwick Lancashire Address - 25 Meadow Street, Ardwick John (head) occupation - mechanic Paul

Paul, That looks promising. Maureen

HI, Just what I was thinking. Vera

There are several coincidences between the 1871 and 1861 details 1871 43 Wellington St Alexander is an engine fitter and is shown as Widower Elizabeth is a callico weaver ?? Alexander born 1828 Nottinghamshire 1861 and the same date of birth and county for John and similar occupation John born 1828 Nottinghamshire Perhaps I am clutching at straws with this. Maureen

John in 1851 mothers name looks promising Ann Chessell abt 1822 Enor, Derbyshire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Epshebe Chessell abt 1794 Enor, Derbyshire, England Wife Manchester Lancashire Fanny Chessell abt 1830 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Hannah Chessell abt 1823 Enor, Derbyshire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Henry Chessell abt 1837 Nottinghamshire, England Son Manchester Lancashire John Chessell abt 1802 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Manchester Lancashire John Chessell abt 1832 Nottinghamshire, England Son Manchester Lancashire Joseph Chessell abt 1834 Nottinghamshire, England Son Manchester Lancashire William Chessell abt 1825 Nottinghamshire, England Son Manchester Lancashire Address - 5 Tutbury Street, Ancoats John (head) occupation - engineer Paul

Hi Maureen, I often clutch at straws, while family treeing..... and sometimes it works. I am going to give this one a rest.....it doesn't take much, but my brain is fogging up !!!!! :-) Regards Vera

Hi Paul, Yes the 1851 looks good. Think I am going to rule out the 1871 family that I posted because of this marriage Name: Alexander Chessell Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Manchester (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 20 Page: 656 **Margaret Bentley, Charles Ellis, Eliza Gregory, Mary Hill, James Plowman, Charles Scrivner Will check this thread later. Maureen

Hi, Have found on IGI Alexander Chessel born Radford Nottingham 1827 father John Chessel mother Epsheba. Why do these ancestors change their names, it doesn't help !!! I think Paul has found Susans family. Will look later, just about to go out. Regards Vera

Thank you to you all for all the info on Hephzabah (Hephsibah, Ephseba). I'm even more confused & am unsure which family is hers! I think the only real way to find out is to buy her birth certificate which will show me her Fathers name & Mothers maiden name. On the 1881, 1891 & 1901 census details I have, she was married to Samuel Whittaker & her name was spelt Hephzabah, Hephzibah & Hephzibak!!!!!!!! Her dob was always correct as being born 1856 in Gorton. She was a cotton weaver. They always seemed to live in the same area. I'm thinking maybe John has the correct family. You'd think with a name like 'Hephzebah' it wouldn't be so difficult. They were so illiterate though that they seemed to spell all their names different at every census date maybe it depended on the numerator & how he fancied spelling the name!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again, Very much appreciated Susan

Hi Susan, I couldn't find Hephsibah Chassel (1861 spelling) on the 1861 census, did you actually see the image. Regards Vera

Hi Vera, I went onto 1837 site for the 1861 census & put up Hephzibah chessell with name varients on both names. I didn't put any age in or any district etc. There was only one that came up with the different spellings & she was aged 9 & not born in Gorton. I don't think it is the correct person. The other leads were more promising. I'll send for the birth certificate I think. Thanks for your help Susan