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Please some assistance, as I have come to a dead end on this one. Joseph Tennyson, according to 1901 census, born c1861 in Manchester. Married Maud Emily Leach Lynch 8.11.1891 in Islington London. Children Joseph Leach Tennyson 10.3.1894 Augustus Walter Tennyson 17.2.1895 Emily Minnie C Tennyson c 1896 Leslie Bert Tennyson 13.3.1901 Have located marriage certificate (8 Nov 1891) that shows father as Joseph Tennyson deceased. No details of any of these Tennysons in any other earlier census returns. Need to locate both Joseph Tennyson and the rest of the family. Can anyone help please. Thanks Steve

Hi Steve, What occupations do you have listed for both Josephs? What was his age? Rose

Steve Do you have any witnesses to the marriage that could possibly be family? Can't see anything on the Lancashirebmd or freebmd which seem relevant. Jenny

This, presumably, is the marriage.............no sign of him on census other than 1901 Emily Leach Lynch 1891 Oct-Nov-Dec Shoreditch London, Middlesex View Record Joseph Tennyson 1891 Oct-Nov-Dec Shoreditch London, Middlesex Reg

Occupations: Joseph T born 1861 : Comedian (Linked to the Water Rats, and worked with Joseph O'Gorman on the stage as a double act) Joseph T , father: Barber (presume he was born around 1835/1840 ish). Was deceased in 1891 at time of marriage. Possibly Irish connection? Witnesses: Joseph O'Gorman (part of comedy double act), and Emily Moosedale.

Perhaps Tennyson was a stage name.... Rose

Any addresses on the marriage cert? Rose

Address on marriage certificate was 18 & 20 Pitfield Street, Hoxton,London. Father in law (Augustus Leopold Leach Lynch) was a Theatrical Proprieter and ran the Variety Theatre which was at the above address. Don't think Tennyson was a stage name, as his father was also Joseph Tennyson. Odd that none of them appear on any of the census returns until 1901.

1891 which I presume you have already checked out Name: Emily Leach Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Wife Where Born: E, London, England Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG12/248 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton Old Town ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 9 Page: 11 GSU Number: 6095358 Arthur Leach abt 1868 E, London, England Son Augustus Leach abt 1848 E, London, England Head Emily Leach abt 1870 E, London, England Daughter Chinett E Simons abt 1862 Cambridgeshire, England Housekeeper Melisa Vowels abt 1869 Kilburn, London, England Barmaid Florence Hanks abt 1869 M, London, England Barmaid Address: The Variety Pub and Theatre, Pitfield St, Shoreditch Maureen

Maureen No haven't located the information from 1891 before. Managed to find them as Lynch in 1871, they appear to have become Leach in 1891 and possibly Leach Lynch? Very confusing. Did you track using the address? Any track in 1881? Thanks for the info so far!!...Great! Steve

1881. Augustus Leach abt 1847 Islington Head St Mary Islington London Augustus Leach abt 1868 Islington Son St Mary Islington London Emily Leach abt 1847 Islington Wife St Mary Islington London Emily Leach abt 1870 Islington Daughter St Mary Islington London Source information: RG11/265 Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 54 Folio: 79 Page: 21

Possible Marriage for Augustus and Emily? Name: Augustus Leopold Lynch Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 374 Joseph Cook 1867 Jul-Aug-Sep Shoreditch London, Middlesex .............> Augustus Leopold Lynch 1867 Jul-Aug-Sep Shoreditch London, Middlesex Elizabeth Payne 1867 Jul-Aug-Sep Shoreditch London, Middlesex ..............> Emily Sarah White 1867 Jul-Aug-Sep Shoreditch London, Middlesex

1851? Augustus Lynch abt 1846 St Andrews; Holborn Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Catherine Lynch abt 1840 Carksle Camberland Daughter Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Emmeline Lynch abt 1842 Northum B, Newcastle Daughter Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Henrata Lynch abt 1819 Carksle Camberland Wife Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Nicholas Lynch abt 1815 Ireland Head Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Nicholes Lynch abt 1844 St Andrews; Holborn Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Robert Lynch abt 1850 St Andrews; Holborn Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Source information: HO107/1514 Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Folio: 125 Page: 2 1861. Augustus Lysech abt 1847 St Andrew, Middlesex, England Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Catherine Lysech abt 1841 Carlesle, Cumberland, England Head Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Emmeline Lysech abt 1843 Newcastle on Tyne Head Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Harrietta Lysech abt 1821 Calcutta Head Holborn St Andrew Middlesex John Lysech abt 1854 St Andrew, Middlesex, England Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex M?? Lysech abt 1816 Ireland Head Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Nicholas Lysech abt 1845 St Andrew, Middlesex, England Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Robert Lysech abt 1850 St Andrew, Middlesex, England Son Holborn St Andrew Middlesex Source information: RG9/185 Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 17 Page: 27

Thanks FC Michigan...great assistance! Spelling is so key to it all! Now if I could only find out more on the Tennyson side, and why they are missing from the census returns!

1891 Name: Emily Mosedale Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Granddaughter Where Born: Wolverhampton Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG12/255 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Folio: 57 Page: 6 GSU Number: 6095365 William Jones abt 1828 Birmingham Head - cabinet maker Harriett Jones abt 1821 Shoreditch Wife Ellen Jones abt 1847 Hooton Daughter (Mosedale on image) Just wondering if this is the Emily that is a witness on the marriage certifcate. She is living in the Shoreditch area and is shown as a professional singer. Maureen

hi Maureen Guess she must be the Moosedale from the marriage certificate. Suspect she was a professional singer , linked to the comdeians! Excellent hunting! Steve

Any suggestions on how to track down the Tennysons in the missing census returns? Need to track down births, marriages and deaths. Any trace of any Tennyson born in Manchester around the 1855 - 1865. This would hopefully cover Joseph and/or any other siblings. Anyone help further please?