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Hi Kate My mam's full name was Doreen Mary Forde. Her parents supposedly met while they were both in service after the war, but we don't know whether it was Scotland, Norfolk or London(where they were supposedly married). They lived in Glasgow, where my uncle was born, then they all moved to Newcastle, where my mam was born. I am starting to think that whatever her father told her was fabricated, as there are no records of him in the army records either. I've been all through this, and given up. I have definitely tried all medal records, army bases etc and exhausted all possibilities. If I had the marriage cert, that would do me, but that's looking like an impossibility as well. He definitely didn't want anybody to find anything out about him that's for sure. I really wonder if that was him real name, but I'll never know. Thank you again Rosemary

Hi Rosemary, What was your mam's full name? Val

Kate.........thanks, I missed that snippet in among all the other stuff............... Reg

Reg, Rosemary already said she had looked on Scotland's People for the marriage. But I have to say, if they put down on their son's birth certificate that they were married in London and no trace of the marriage can be found, it could well be that they were just pretending to be married, and they thought it was less likely they would be found out if they said they were married somewhere other than Scotland! Kate.

Who moved from Glasgow? Ethel and her husband? Have you checked for a marriage in Scotland? Reg

My mam was born in 1928 in Newcastle, they moved there from Glasgow. Yes that's Ethel born in 1895 in Lynford, Norfolk. I have searched through the marriages, without success for an Ethel Alice Main. I'm ready for giving up on this branch!! It's really giving me a headache. I started looking 15 years ago, had a break, then started looking again a few months ago. There is a lot more help now on the internet that there was then, but I'm still no further on. Well thank you everybody for your help. It looks like that Ethel A Ager is somebody else's relative doesn't it? Rosemary

If I were you I wouldn't bother with the Ethel A Ager marriage certificate, anyway: Births Dec 1885 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ager Ethel Annie Thingoe 4a 666 I take it that you have searched for Ethel A Main all through the marriage indexes already? Kate.

To clarify at least one thing.....is this the right woman in 1901? Ellen Eagle abt 1826 West Tofts, Norfolk, England Head Lynford Norfolk View Record William Eagle abt 1859 West Tofts, Norfolk, England Son Lynford Norfolk View Record Alice May Main abt 1861 London, England Wife Lynford Norfolk View Record Arthur Main abt 1899 Lynford, Norfolk, England Son Lynford Norfolk View Record Edith Alice Main abt 1890 Lynford, Norfolk, England Daughter Lynford Norfolk View Record Ethel Main abt 1895 Lynford, Norfolk, England Daughter Lynford Norfolk View Record Herbert Main abt 1900 Lynford, Norfolk, England Son Lynford Norfolk View Record May Main abt 1897 Lynford, Norfolk, England Daughter Lynford Norfolk View Record Robert Main abt 1854 Great Cressingham Head Lynford Norfolk View Record Robert Minard Main abt 1886 West Tofts, Norfolk, England Son Lynford Norfolk Sidney Main abt 1888 Lynford, Norfolk, England Son Lynford Norfolk View Record William Charley Main abt 1893 Lynford, Norfolk, England Son Lynford Norfolk If so, she would have been pushing it to have been marrying for the second time in 1911, when she would have been aged 16/17. Reg

What year was your mam born and where was she born? Val

Hi Sorry if I wasn't very clear, I was on my way out, so it was a hurried request. Ethel and Thomas were my mam's parents. I have my uncle's birth certificate, who was born in Glasgow. On his birth cert Ethel and Thomas have put their marriage date down as 19 January, 1919 - in London, England. That's why I contacted the GRO, thinking I had a definite date and names. When they replied, they refunded most of the search money, and had searched from 1918-1920 under those names. I have searched on Scots people in case they married up there. My grandfather is a bit of a mystery. There was 20 years difference between them. He was from Ireland, but came over on his own, so we haven't found anything about his family. He told my mam and uncle that he was in the Coldstream guards, but he wasn't. After extensive research of army records, medals etc there isn't any sign of him. We don't have an army number for him so didn't get very far there. But this marriage is also baffling me. I have even wondered if he took somebody else's name, or was a bigamist. They may never have married, she could have just taken his name. Then again she may have been married once or twice before him. That's why I'm exploring all possibilities. That is Ethel Alice Main, born in Lynford, my grandmother. I have managed to complete most of her family tree up to 1901. I have both their death certificates, thinking it might have more info on them. All Thomas's says that I didn't know is that he was an electrical welder. I know that he worked on the shipyards in Newcastle, and probably Glasgow. I found Ethel A Ager, married to Walter Baker in the marriages, and wondered if it could be my Ethel, married for the second time, especially as it is in Thetford, Norfolk, near her home. It was worth a shot, thanks for replying anyway. Rosemary

I suppose this is Ethel's birth registration?: Births Dec 1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Main Ethel Alice Thetford 4b 358 So she is unlikely to have been married before 1911, apart from the fact that there is no marriage listed for her on FreeBMD. I suggest you search for her marriage after 1911 under the surname of Main; you can search quarter-by-quarter on ancestry or you could buy some credits on www.familyrelatives.org and do a blanket search up to 1920 (don't put in her middle name on there, just search for Ethel Main). I wouldn't suggest asking the GRO to do your search for you now the indexes are freely available, by the way. Kate.

Did Thomas and Ethel have any children? And if so, do you have the birth certificate for any of them? And if so, what does it say for Ethel's name? If not, I suggest you get a birth certificate because it should list any former surnames she had. Kate.

Whose marriage do you actually want? Have you any idea of where? What is the connection between Ethel Ager marrying a Baker, and Ethel Main marrying a Forde? Or am I misreading the request? Reg

If you put the name into the quick search box at the top of the page, there are a few Ethel Ager's in different trees on this site. One of them might be your Ethel. Kath. x

Hi Rosemary, which year were Thomas and Ethel married? Val

Hi Would anybody have this lady in their tree, or her spouse Walter Baker. They were married in 1911 A/M/J. I have been looking for Ethel Alice Main, my grandmother - a record of her marriage to my grandfather Thomas Forde. There's no record of that, the GRO have checked that year, and a year each side. I was wondering in maybe she has been married before, and have started looking at alternatives. If I can eliminate her from other marriages, I needn't send for that marriage cert. if it's the wrong person. Thanks Rosemary