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I know Joyce isn't actively seeking Ada at the moment - we tried every which way but diagonally to find her, spent ages and ages ( i mean weeks!) trying to track her down. I think we decided that one with grandparents WAS probably her but....... I'll take my hat off to anyone that does manage to locate her

I don't suppose that this could be of relevance from the 81?? John MELLERS Head M Male 53 Owston, Lincoln, England General Laborer ((Drill Man)) Mary MELLERS Wife M Female 51 Belton, Lincoln, England Sarah A. MELLERS Daur U Female 21 Bawtry, York, England >>> Ada MELLERS Daur Female 12 Epworth, Lincoln, England Kate A. MELLERS Grand Daur Female 11 Epworth, Lincoln, England Scholar John H. MELLERS Son Male 9 Epworth, Lincoln, England Scholar Mary L.H. MELLERS Grand Daur Female 9 m Epworth, Lincoln, England Source Information: Dwelling Chapel Street Census Place Epworth, Lincoln, England Family History Library Film 1342136 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4696 / 10 Page Number 13

OK - bear with me on this one as I'm thinking on paper!! Loopy Lesley posted abut an Ada born Lincolnshire 1869 who was living with grandparents in Salford. The head of that household was William born Hepworth in Lincs. I looked for Louisa on the 1861 and found this Living at Carrhouse in Belton, Lincs (which is part of Epworth registration district) rg9/3523/61/7 On his own is John BASSINDALE head widow 68 farmer of 7 acres born Butterwick, Lincs. Further down the page is (in the household of a Robert RIGBY age 44 born Churbend, lancashire who says he's married but there's no wie to be seen) Ann BASSINDALE servant single 28 housekeeper born Belton, Lincs with Louisa (no relationship) age 4 born Belton and John (no relationship) age is months, possibly 9. This Ann BASSINDALE (mistranscribed as Bassinale) is still in lincs in 1871 rg10/4725/63/3 & is still in Robert Rigby's household (though he now says he is age 58 and was born Wiggin, lancs - presumably Wigan). Ann BASSINDALE single 37 housekeeper born belton Louisa daughter 14 house assistant born belton John Robert son 10 scholar born Belton William son 7 scholar born belton Elizabeth daughter 5 born belton Herbert son 2 born belton Clara daughter 5 months born belton There were 3 ann bassindales born in belton arund 1833, and one of them is the one above. I'm thinking that her father (john) and william were brothers and there are people on the 1841 belton who could fit. Anybody any thoughts plese?

Joyce - with a bit of luck, if we find one then we find the other. Nothing like a good challenge. Has anyone found her birth? Jools

thank you all for your help,but as i said i wasnt looking for ada as i knew that all the people who looked couldnt find her,its just i thought i had found her dad which was,nt the case jess not trying to give you nightmares lol joyce

Echoing Jess - AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH It would have helped if I could have found a birth for her - but no. No John on 81 as a victualler, publican or anything else vaguely beery. Must go & get something for tea - himself requires feeding at 5pm prior to doing a night shift. Back later. UPDATE - Jess - perhaps she said Manchester because she thought she was - it's that one someone found on the 1871 with her at grandparents in Salford somewhere higher up the thread (I think the head was a william from Lincolnshire) Gone.

ARrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh Ada Bassindale - the stuff nightmares are made of!! I believe we came to the conclusion that she must have been born Lincs, despite saying Manchester. Her son , whose name escapes me for a mo- it was imprinted on my brain for a while - has an 'unaccounted for' middle name - just remembered it -Joseph RATHBONE mellor

She wasn't living at 92 Olivia St, Bootle on the 1891. John & Emma Henderson were. rg12/2970/97/58 It's also equally clear there there's no birth for an ada mary bas(s)in(g)dale between JFM 1869 and JFM 1871 as I've just checked the images.

ok thank you lesley

I have got to go now but will come back later and see if anybody has progressed for you.... Good luck Hope you find some more info re: Ada Lesley :~)

jools the wittness were william spencer mary jane bunfield sorry took so long had the phisio here

i also have the address at the time of marriage it was 92 olivia street,bootle ,liverpool

yes lesley have the 1901 thank you

sorry he was dead when she married

I take it you have the 1901 for Ada with Samuel? If not let me know... Just for others for ref: Name: Ada Mary Mellor Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Wife Household: Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Lesley :~)

Jools Joyce has said that John's occ: Licenced Victualler but she has not told me wether he alive at time of marriage.. Lesley :~)

Joyce - was her father alive on the MC and what was his occupation? Who were the witnesses?

she was married 1893 to samuel mellor walton on the hill county of lancaster

Is she the one who married JAS 1893 in W. Derby to Thomas Hampson or Samuel Mellor? If so, was her father shown as alive on the MC and what was his occupation?

JOYCE The one born in 1827 on the census's is a Farm Labourer or Ag lab ...so I dont think that is your John..Ada's Father.... What yr did Ada get Married? Lesley :~)