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I am trying to find the probable surname of Jane who married David Stroud. I have found his marriage record in FreeBMD in Jan/Feb/Mar 1850 in Canterbury. The problem is that the page is smudged at the bottom and his is the last name, I can't make out the page number. I have tried all manner of searching but can't find a Jane married in Canterbury during that period. Would anyone have a minute see if they can make it out please?

It looks like page 87 to me. Kath. x

Thanks Kathleen, that's what I thought. Would Jane have the same thing? vol 5 page 87, she doesn't appear to be there.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 Record about David Stroud Name: David Stroud Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Canterbury County: Kent Volume: 5 Page: 87 (click to see others on page)

After finding them on the 1861 census with two children, this seems to be the birth reference for the son:- David Stroud June qtr. 1854, Bridge, 2a, 507 The certificate would give Jane's maiden name. This seems to be the daughter's birth reference:- Ann Stroud June qtr. 1850, Bridge, V, 51 Kath. x

Thanks Marie, that's him. I won't admit that I need bifocals, I haven't turned into my Mother just yet LOL

this is the listing from ancestry Record Mary Banks 1850 Jan-Feb-Mar Canterbury Kent View Record Frances Amelia Hollyer 1850 Jan-Feb-Mar Canterbury Kent View Record John Smalley 1850 Jan-Feb-Mar Canterbury Kent View Record David Stroud 1850 Jan-Feb-Mar Canterbury Kent

Thanks Kathleen, so it definitely says his wife is Jane. Yet there isn't a Jane in the list Marie has found? I can't get my head around this one. You're both stars for trying to help me, thank you. I must go to bed now, I'll get back to this in the morning, thanks again.

This is the family in 1861:- Ann Stroud abt 1851 Canterbury, Kent, England Daughter Westgate Without Kent David Stroud abt 1828 Canterbury, Norfolk, England Head Westgate Without Kent David Stroud abt 1854 Canterbury, Kent, England Son Westgate Without Kent Jane Stroud abt 1834 Hertfordshire, England Wife Westgate Without Kent Source information: RG9/517 Registration district: Bridge Sub-registration district: Chartham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 127 Page: 16 and again in 1871, with Jane as a widow:- Amelia Stroud abt 1869 Canterbury, Kent, England Daughter St Gregory Kent Ann Stroud abt 1871 Canterbury, Kent, England Daughter St Gregory Kent Daniel Stroud abt 1861 Canterbury, Kent, England Son St Gregory Kent Jane Stroud abt 1832 Nk, Hertfordshire, England Head St Gregory Kent Stephen Stroud abt 1863 Canterbury, Kent, England Son St Gregory Kent Source information: RG10/972 Registration district: Blean Sub-registration district: Sturry ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 12 Page: 16 and a death registration for David:- David Stroud, age (40 something) Dec. qtr. 1870, Canterbury, 2a, 417 Kath. x

Thanks again Kathleen, I think I'll order the marriage certificate of David and Jane, that way I should get her maiden name and the Father's names. Thanks again ladies. Sue

BUT the marriage reference that has been listed does not include the name Jane - therefore is likely to be the wrong one.

You would be better off getting one of the children´s birth certificates which would then give you Jane´s maiden name. You can then do a search for the marriage on Ancestry on the complete images.

This looks like your family in 1851 Ann Strand abt 1850 Canterbury, Kent, England Daughter Westgate Without Kent David Strand abt 1828 Canterbury, Kent, England Head Westgate Without Kent Mary Strand abt 1826 Chartham, Kent, England Wife Westgate Without Kent have checked image and it looks like Stroud. So the marriage reference you have got looks to match up with this David marrying Mary Banks. So it looks likely that the Jane born in Hertfordshire is a second marriage.

If the Jane is a second marriage, then here is a possible death for Mary Mary Stroud Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Bridge County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 381

Cant see a David Stroud/Jane marriage on free BMD. There is a David Stroud marriage on the complete images - 1859 1st quarter Cantebury 2a 665 - which might be a possible.

If you have already ordered the marriage certificate with the reference that has been given (in 1850) - and have included the name JANE in your order - I hope you realise that you will not get the certificate. If you have just put Davids name on the order then the certificate will come through OK

Elaine you have gone above and beyond the call of duty. That seems to make sense, I'll check it all out. You're so sweet to go to all of this trouble, thank you, I haven't ordered the certificate yet (pay day tomorrow) so I will go for a child's birth certificate, thanks for the tip. Sue

I think the marriage in 1859 which Elaine found is a good possibility, as men tended to marry quite quickly after a wife's death if they had children. If you are going to order a birth certificate of one of the children, it needs to be one of the younger children who are on the 1871 census, as the older children will probably be from his first wife, and therefore won't give you Jane's maiden name. Kath. x

Good point Kathleen, I'll go for my Direct ascendant, he was born c1863, so he should be safe. Whatever did I do before starting this? LOL

Is your ancestor Stephen Stroud? If so this looks like his birth reference:- Stephen Stroud Sept. qtr. 1862, Bridge, 2a, 537 I know what I used to do before I started this lark. Housework, cooking, shopping. Now I don't even think about any of these things. It's amazing how I can now ignore dust and dirt when I never could before, lol. Kath. x