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Thanks Deborah that looks like the one I couldnt find anymore that matched so I think its certs again to fix this mystery Yvonne in Australia

Poss match for 1851: Alice Jackson abt 1839 Bury, Lancashire, England Daughter Bury Lancashire Ruth Jackson abt 1818 Bury, Lancashire, England Head Bury Lancashire Sarah Jackson abt 1845 Bury, Lancashire, England Daughter Bury Lancashire Wright Jackson abt 1847 Bury, Lancashire, England Son Bury Lancashire Source information: HO107/2214 Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: South Bury ED, institution, or vessel: 4, 5, and 6c Folio: 94 Page: 37 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 110 GSU Number: 87 Ruth is a weaver and address is simply recorded as BARLOWFOLD , Bury Tracing Ruth & Alice on the 1841 census : Alice Jackson abt 1839 Lancashire, England Bury Lancashire Ruth Jackson abt 1821 Lancashire, England Bury Lancashire Source information: HO107/538/11 Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: South Bury ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 24 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Line number: 19 GSU Number: 306922 Same address as & occupation as 1851 Using the names above ( first names only ) and places and years of birth COULD this be Wright in 1861: If so why a surname change??? A marriage between 1851 & 1861 maybe for Ruth?? Ruth Barton abt 1820 Bury, Lancashire, England Head Pilkington Lancashire Sarah Barton abt 1845 Bury, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire Wright Barton abt 1847 Bury, Lancashire, England Son Pilkington Lancashire Phoebe Morris abt 1848 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Niece Pilkington Lancashire Source information: RG9/2858 Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Pilkington ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 96 Page: 34 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 196 GSU Number: 54303 Address is in PILKINGTON now but Ruth's occupation is still the same.

yes I have that, so it looks like getting cert for wrights marriage Thanks for the inputit is much appreciated . Yvonne in Australia

1851..........just posting ad hoc; going offline shortly Ann Ashworth abt 1809 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Wife Pilkington Lancashire View Record Betty Ashworth abt 1839 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Catherine Ashworth abt 1848 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Danl Ashworth abt 1807 Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Head Pilkington Lancashire View Record Fanny Ashworth abt 1837 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Hannah Ashworth abt 1842 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Margret Ashworth abt 1846 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Sarah Ashworth abt 1833 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Thos Ashworth abt 1850 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Son Pilkington Lancashire View Record Mary Sandiford abt 1839 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Servant Pilkington Lancashire Reg

Right then..............1861 Ann Ashworth abt 1802 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Head Pilkington Lancashire View Record Betsey Ashworth abt 1839 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Catherine Ashworth abt 1848 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Margaret Ashworth abt 1846 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Hannah Hayle abt 1842 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Mary Hayle abt 1860 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Mary Thornley abt 1788 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Mother-in-law Pilkington Lancashire Or do you have this already? I think you may need to purchase the marriage cert, to discover Wright's father's details........... Reg

Sorry Reg , its ashworth need new brain as well as eyes Yvonne

So, neither of the above then......... Reg

Reg its Catherine Ashton. Yvonne

I am now trying to find Wrights family back in 1861 or 1851 cencus to check on his brothers and sisters. Yvonne in Australia

Possibly the marriage..........but which Catherine? Catherine Ashworth 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire View Record John Drennan 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire View Record Wright Jackson 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire View Record Catherine Ratcliffe 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 541 Reg

Hi Reg no dont have cert on them , they also had son Daniel in september 1874 died march 1875 that is why I am thinking they might not be the parents that they might have raised either wrights brothe or sisters child that was born in U.S.A. Yvonne in Australia

Do you have Betsy's marriage cert? It would give her father's name........although such info is not always accurate. If she married in England/Wales, her birthplace would not be recorded. When did Wright and Catherine marry? It is noticeable that their other two children were born fairly close together............ Have you located Wright and Catherine on earlier censuses? Reg

helen, that could be a possibility as I am starting to think that she may not be the daughter of Wright and Catherine Jackson and possibly the daughter of a brother or sister tha was in U.S.A. and they sent her back to be reared by them as I cant find any travel for wright or catherine jackson. Thanks all for the input . Yvonne in Australia.

1881 View Record Betsy Ann Jackson abt 1873 Pencelvia For, United States, United States Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record Catherine Jackson abt 1848 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Wife Pilkington Lancashire View Record Fanny Jackson abt 1879 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pilkington Lancashire View Record James Jackson abt 1877 Pilkington, Lancashire, England Son Pilkington Lancashire View Record Wright Jackson abt 1847 Blackford Bridge, Lancashire, England Head Pilkington Lancashire

Is this a possible: IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Elizabeth A. Jackson Birth: 07 MAR 1874 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: William Jackson Mother: Harriett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: C595495 1873 - 1874

thanks reg but she was back in england on the 1881cencus. Yvonne in Australia

A GR member is very kindly offering US lookups..........if your girl was still in the US in 1880, she may be able to locate her...........I'll nudge the relevant thread for you Reg

My Gran Betsy ann Jackson was born in pennsylvania in 1873 but I have no idea what county she was born in looked on 1837 online with no luck . would her place of birth be on her marriage cert , or any suggestions, Yvonne in Australia