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Could anybody please find a birth for me please in
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Wendy | Report | 24 Jul 2006 11:25 |
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Thanks to all who have tryed to help me, Ann or Annie Jarvis and James seem to be hard work to find all I know for sure that in the 1901 census in Warrington lancashire the information is correct with Annie and James. Before this I am not sure which James in Wellington is mine. With 2 James being born Wellington similar years. And even both grandparents being named Mary aswell. No marriage certificates name parents either. Well will keep looking thankyou all so much. wendy |
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Elaine | Report | 21 Jul 2006 07:41 |
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A bit of feedback would be useful here Wendy. |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 14:07 |
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Wilf - until we know whether the name is Jarvis or Jervis then I think its going to be impossible to find the correct information. |
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Allie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 14:04 |
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I am going to the Shropshire Archives on either Friday or Saturday, so I can have a look for you. Wilf |
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Suzy | Report | 19 Jul 2006 12:15 |
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And..... Births Sep 1870 Jervis Annie Eliza Wellington, Sh. 6a 778 Births Sep 1874 JERVIS Anne Maria Wellington Sal 6a 783 Suzy I think we should wait until Wendy comes back. I have to go out now. Will check back later. GOOD THINKING BATMAN! |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 12:13 |
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Don´t think we can add any more to this until Wendy comes back with confirmation that 1901 is right - or not as the case may be !! |
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Suzy | Report | 19 Jul 2006 12:12 |
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Elaine See what you mean. In which case: Births Dec 1872 Jervis James Wellington, Sh. 6a 804 or Births Mar 1873 Jervis James Wellington, Sh. 6a 822 Suzy |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 12:05 |
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Am not convinced that any of the above is the right line - after having done all the work !! First of all Wendy we need some input from you. Is the James JARVIS in the 1901 census the person you are trying to trace back. IF it is then this looks like his marriage registration James Jervis Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Wellington Sal County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 1310 Adeline Guy 1889 Jul-Aug-Sep Wellington Sal Shropshire James Jervis 1889 Jul-Aug-Sep Wellington Sal Shropshire On the 1891 census (ancestry) Adeline has been transcribed as Guy - incorrectly - image says Jarvis - and James has been transcribed as Tarvis ! They are living with her parents - Thomas and Ann Guy - in Great and Little Preston, Yorks. Adeline Guy abt 1869 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Ann Guy abt 1840 Wellington, Shropshire, England Wife Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Emmanuel Guy abt 1882 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Enoch Guy abt 1879 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Thomas Guy abt 1841 Newport, Wales Head Great and Little Preston Yorkshire William H Guy abt 1872 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Great and Little Preston Yorkshire James Tarvis abt 1866 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son-in-law Great and Little Preston Yorkshire SO - if this is right then you can forget all the info I have given to you before because the James Jarvis we were tracing there was on the 1891 census with grandmother Mary. IF the 1901 is right - then maybe consider the different spelling as in the marriage registration - JERVIS - NOT JARVIS Searching for a James Jervis with a sister Annie has bought this one up 1881 Ada Jervis abt 1877 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Daughter Wrockwardine Shropshire Agness Jervis abt 1858 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Wife Wrockwardine Shropshire Anna Jervis abt 1863 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Sister Wrockwardine Shropshire Carline Jervis abt 1879 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Daughter Wrockwardine Shropshire Hannah Jervis abt 1826 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Mother Wrockwardine Shropshire Isaac Jervis abt 1856 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Head Wrockwardine Shropshire James Jervis abt 1866 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Brother Wrockwardine Shropshire Thos. Jervis abt 1858 Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England Brother Wrockwardine Shropshire Wrockwardine Wood is just a couple of miles outside Wellington. Where do you go from here - if the 1901 is right then you need to get the marriage certificate. Hopefully this will show a fathers name and we can work back from that. |
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Suzy | Report | 19 Jul 2006 12:00 |
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As James' Mother Mary is not with him on 1881 census, I wonder if she got married?: Marriages Dec 1877 DAVIES John Wellington, Sh. 6a 1573 Haley William Henry Wellington Salop 6a 1573 Jarvis Mary Wellington Sh 6a 1573 Ridgeway Elizabeth Wellington Sh 6a 1573 Suzy |
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Suzy | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:55 |
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This looks like sister Annie: Births Dec 1873 JARVIS Ann Wellington, Sh. 6a 754 Suzy |
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Suzy | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:52 |
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Wendy This looks like his birth: Births Sep 1867 Jarvis James Wellington, Sh. 6a 764 His birth certificate should give you a few clues. Suzy |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:42 |
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Well at the moment we haven´t proved anything apart from finding the 2 names on the IGI which match !! Do you know if Annie died young - because we don´t seem to have her on the 1871 census - IF the ones we have found are right. Is the James in the 1901 census the right one - if so have you got his marriage certificate? |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:39 |
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and presume this is your James in 1901 - YES or NO ?? Adeline Jarvis abt 1868 Wellington, Shropshire, England Wife Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Allen Jarvis abt 1895 Kippax, Yorkshire, England Son Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Hilda Jarvis abt 1900 Kippax, Yorkshire, England Daughter Great and Little Preston Yorkshire James Jarvis abt 1866 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Great and Little Preston Yorkshire Thomas Jarvis abt 1889 Gt Preston, Yorkshire, England Son Great and Little Preston Yorkshire |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:32 |
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1891 - quite a lot listed here - will try to sort them out in families (who may or may not be related !!!) Mary Jarvis abt 1822 Arleston, Shropshire, England Head Wellington Shropshire James Jarvis abt 1868 Ketley, Shropshire, England Granddaughter Wellington Shropshire says grandson on image Mary widow. James occ. labourer at wood works ----- Moses Jarvis abt 1829 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Wellington Shropshire William Jarvis abt 1865 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire Jane Jarvis abt 1836 Wellington, Shropshire, England Wife Wellington Shropshire ----- John Jarvis abt 1843 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Wellington Shropshire Albert Jarvis abt 1885 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire Enoch Jarvis abt 1875 Dawley, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire Henry Jarvis abt 1883 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire --------- Elizabeth Jarvis abt 1879 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Wellington Shropshire Enoch Jarvis abt 1852 Ketley, Shropshire, England Head Wellington Shropshire Florence Jarvis abt 1883 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Wellington Shropshire Henry Jarvis abt 1887 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire Isaiah J Jarvis abt 1881 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire Margaret Jarvis abt 1851 Wrockwardine, Shropshire, England Wife Wellington Shropshire Mary Jarvis abt 1890 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Wellington Shropshire |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:30 |
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Yes - in 1881 listed as grandson Enoch Jarvis abt 1821 Old Park, Shropshire, England Head Wellington Shropshire James Jarvis abt 1868 Ketley, Shropshire, England Grandson Wellington Shropshire Mary Jarvis abt 1819 Arleston, Shropshire, England Wife Wellington Shropshire |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:29 |
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1871 Enoch Jarvis abt 1823 Wombridge, Shropshire, England Head Wellington Shropshire Enoch Jarvis abt 1850 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire James Jarvis abt 1867 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire Jane Jarvis abt 1857 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Wellington Shropshire Mary Jarvis abt 1822 Wellington, Shropshire, England Wife Wellington Shropshire Mary Jarvis abt 1844 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Wellington Shropshire Samuel Jarvis abt 1870 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire William Jarvis abt 1852 Wellington, Shropshire, England Son Wellington Shropshire listed as son of the head of family. Wonder if he was actually grandson of head, and son of Mary b 1844 |
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Elaine | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:28 |
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These two show up on the IGI JAMES JARVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 14 AUG 1867 Christ Church, Wellington, Shropshire, England ANN JARVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 SEP 1873 Christ Church, Wellington, Shropshire, England only mothers name has been listed - Mary Jarvis - so looks as if they may have been illegitimate. Will try to find them on a census |
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jen yorkshire | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:20 |
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Ann Jarvis 1875 Apr-May-Jun Holborn London, Middlesex Charles James Jarvis 1871 Jul-Aug-Sep Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex View Record David James Jarvis 1870 Jan-Feb-Mar Lambeth Greater London, London, Surrey View Record Edward James Jarvis 1871 Jul-Aug-Sep Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record George James Jarvis 1870 Jul-Aug-Sep Chelsea (1841-1981) Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Henry James Jarvis 1871 Oct-Nov-Dec Camberwell (1837-1919) London, Surrey View Record James Jarvis 1870 Jan-Feb-Mar Stepney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record James Jarvis 1871 Apr-May-Jun Whitechapel London, Middlesex View Record James Edward Jarvis 1870 Jan-Feb-Mar West Ham Essex, Greater London View Record William James Jarvis 1870 Jul-Aug-Sep St Giles London, Middlesex im not just sure what county salop is in, but web search said london? , there is only one ann jarvis showing in index, though there are a few ann jarvis with middle names... |
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Wendy | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:05 |
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Hello could anybody look up a birth in wellington Salop a James jarvis born about 1870 and a Ann or Annie Jarvis born about 1876, Both brother and sister. I would love to find their parents name, I am finding them very hard to trace and this is only my greatgreat grandparents. Thankyou so much to anybody who could help me. Wendy. Thanks for all your replies Wendy |
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