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Sorry I went away fro a bit On the reults when you open it up, there is a line which says mesaages, it usually says Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. or something like that. That is usually OK, although any one can make a typo when transcribing. The Hugh Wallis results are taken from the parish records as far as I know. I can't remember what it says when the ordinary IGI has been added by an individual, perhaps someone else can remember. Anyway I am glad you are finding lots of new stuff, Linda

Caroline on the IGI entries that you find if you scroll down the page it will say it has been taken from a parish record or submitted by an LDS member. The ones from parish records are more reliable (but still not 100% right) than those submitted LDS members. Happy Hunting. Georgina.

Linda It is incredible! I have been just found Caroline's GRANDFATHER Thomas and his wife Lucy. There is also a Jemima there as one of Edwards siblings. That name appears aswell as Caroline called one of her children Jemima which I have already found on a later census. I thought I was missing out on loads but could never get it to work. How can I be sure though that it was submitted by the LDS or anyone else? Where does it say? Caroline

http://freepages.genealogy*rootsweb*com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm This is the Hugh Wallis batch numbers, cut and paste it, replace the stars with dots, or just google to find it. Choose a county, then use the alpahabetical index to find your town and church. this tells you which years have been transcibed onto the IGI. If there are some suitable years, click on one and a new page opens up. Type in the surname you are looking for and search. You will then see every one in that church of that name. If you leave the surname out, you will see every one who was baptised, married or dispatched in that church, depending on the catagory you have chosen. The Hugh wallis numbers are useful because sometimes you don't realise from the ordinary IGI site that the reason you can't find a result is that your church has not been transcribed for that year. Also be very careful with the ordinaty IGI.. If the result you get was submitted by a member of the later day saints church, then it probably is a transcription from the original parish records. If it was just submitted by Tom,Dick or Harry, then it may be correct, or it may be a load of garbage. Linda

Just to let you know I printed off your instructions followed them through and got all the information that you found. Yippee! Now I see how it works (I think) will give it a go again sometime for someone else and see what comes up Thanks Caroline

Thank you both so much! You have helped me find in 1 hour what has puzzled me for weeks. You don't know (well you probably do actually!) how excited I am now to be able to add these. Thanks Caroline

Caroline if that is Benjamin's christening from the IGI then these are his brother & sisters, there may be more but this is all that is showing up at the moment.... 1. SUSANNAH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 JAN 1830 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 2. ANN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 OCT 1827 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 3. BENJAMIN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 20 FEB 1825 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 4. JOSEPH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 APR 1832 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Georgina.

Caroline to use the IGI www.familysearch*org replace * with a dot make sure it is on IGI on the side menu fill in Benjamin Fletcher choose birth/ christening fill in 1825 choose British Isles from the region, England from the country. Normally you would then choose a county and search, but in this case, just leave it blank and you get three results, the bottom one is your man. I know it was difficult in this case because where he was born is where a few counties overlap and you were not to know this. To search for siblings, click on his name and open up the results Look to the bottom left and you will see it says batch number, click on this , a new page opens, just fill in the father John fletcher,mother Elizabeth leave the rest blank and search SUSANNAH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 JAN 1830 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 2. ANN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 OCT 1827 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 3. BENJAMIN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 20 FEB 1825 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 4. JOSEPH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 APR 1832 Old Swinford, Worcester, England These are possible siblings. If you search with just the fathers name, no mother, it gives some others. You need to look at these as sometimes the mothers name is left out, but they may belong to a different couple

Well I think you may have something...I just did a look up on the 1841 for an Elizabeth Fletcher as John Fletcher was deceased by 1846. It came back with one Elizabeth Fletcher in Old Swinford. Benjamin was not there but there was a John Siveltor living at the same address. I think this was maybe a lodger but it was his occupation that is interesting. He is a Tailor which is the occupation on the Marriage Cert for Benjamin. Also the neighbours were called Whitehouse...on the marriage cert one of the witnesses was a Joseph Whitehouse ...not on the census admittedly but do you think may be a relation.???? Thank you so much for your help. I am really going to have to get my head around how that IGI system works. There could be ooodles of info on there that I know nothing about. Again many thanks for your time and trouble Caroline

Caroline it was from the IGI on the family search site (LDS). This could be Benjamin in 1841 but he is not with his family... Benjamin Fletcher abt 1826 Worcestershire, England Old Swinford Worcestershire Ann Wilson abt 1823 Old Swinford Worcestershire Source information: HO107/1198/10 Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Stourbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 11 Page: 15 (click to see others on page) Line number: 12 GSU Number: 464209 Georgina.

Wow how did you find that? and where?

There is a good chance that this is his christening from the IGI... BENJAMIN FLETCHER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 20 FEB 1825 Old Swinford, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN FLETCHER Mother: ELIZABETH Georgina.

Yes that is the children that I have for them as well as two others that came after 1851

So this is Benjamin in 1851...for reference. Ann Fletcher abt 1849 Nettinton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge Worcestershire Benjamin Fletcher abt 1825 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Head Stourbridge Worcestershire Caroline Fletcher abt 1826 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Stourbridge Worcestershire Jemima Fletcher abt 1851 Stornbald, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge Worcestershire Sarah Fletcher abt 1847 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge Worcestershire Thos Benjn Fletcher abt 1845 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Son Stourbridge Worcestershire Charles Hill abt 1833 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Lodger Stourbridge Worcestershire Georgina.

Hi Georgina I believe 1825 in Stourbridge Caroline

Thanks Kay, on closer inspection of the cert I believe you are correct. Linda, I think I have found Carolines family, Her Father was Edward Hill c1798 and Sarah Hill, c1801, I have also found her siblings I think, but I cannot find anything for the Fletcher side. I am afraid that I do not understand how the IGI system works I did try to use it but got all caught up and confused.

Caroline when was Benjamin born? Georgina.

I have been looking for Caroline on the 1841 census, but without luck, there are plenty of Hills in Kingswinford in 1841,but not her. There is a birth for a Caroline Hill on the IGI for 15 Ap 1827 in Kingswinford, parents Hiram HIll and Mary. Was that her? Linda

Sorry that I can't help much, but I think Presnett is really Pesnett an area just north of Brierley Hill between Kingswinford and Dudley Kay

Hi I need a little help in what I do next. I have been extraordinarily lucky to so far have got back to my Grt Grt Grt Grandfather using just the internet and certificates but noe I want (as we do!!!) to try and delve a little deeper. I have got a name from a marriage cert for my 4 x Grt Grandfather but on looking at the 1841 census there a what seems like thousands and I do not know what I have to do next. Here are the details Grt Grt Grt GFather Benjamin Fletcher married a Caroline Hill Feb 1846 St Marys Church Kingswinford Staffs. His Father is one John Fletcher (deceased on the cert) Brickmaker. Residence at time of Marriage was Presnett??? I have looked on Familysearch.org but with no luck, I find that little difficult to navigate sometimes. Does anyone know of any web sites that may have this info or anyone I could contact as I live on the Kent coast and it is impossible for me to get to the Staffs area. Any ideas? Many Thanks Caroline