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Hi, I just came on the computer, Thanks to everyone for adding more information re the Dye marriage, I am still not sure about this marriage, I have contacted Scotland people to see if they can send me a better copy of the image of the marriage, hope to receive it soon. Many thanks everyone for all your help. Hi Liz in Scotland-- No I haven't managed to find them in the 1891 yet. Betty

Betty, This is the Agnes Innes I found in 1881. Have you found David and Agnes in the 1891 census? The census would hopefully confirm exactly where Agnes was born, as this one was born in England. Dwelling: 19 Clepington Street Census Place: Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203487 GRO Ref Volume 282-4 EnumDist 25 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Margaret INNES U 24 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Weaver Jute Agnes INNES U 16 F England Rel: Sister Occ: Mill Worker Jute Helen INNES 12 F Lossie, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Scholar Don't think the Innes family births found in Banff are connected the mother is listed in 1881 census along with two daughters Ann and Maggie A Innes Liz

I think this is David Dye's parents marriage. As Elisabeth was often shortened to Betsy. ROBERT DYE Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ELISABETH INGLIS Family Marriage: 24 DEC 1853 Liff Benvie And Invergowrie, Angus, Scotland And here is the children of Robert and Elisab 1. JOHN DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 13 AUG 1867 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 2. JOHN DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 02 FEB 1872 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 3. DAVID DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 12 NOV 1863 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 4. JAMES DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 01 JAN 1874 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 5. CHARLES DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 20 JUL 1869 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 6. ROBERT DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 10 FEB 1859 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 7. JEAN DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 26 JUN 1857 Dundee, Angus, Scotland 8. MARY ANN DYE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 12 JUL 1861 Dundee, Angus, Scotland so it would seem correct if David was 18 at time of marriage.

these are some of the children born to the John Innes and Jane Wilson that Anne Findlay has found. These were also on family search 1. ANN INNES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 11 JAN 1857 Boyndie, Banff, Scotland 2. JEAN INNES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 21 APR 1855 Banff, Banff, Scotland 3. JOHN INNES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 22 APR 1861 Banff, Banff, Scotland 4. MARGARET ANDERSON INNES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 10 FEB 1859 Boyndie, Banff, Scotland

betty boo, sometimes there are wrong transcriptions on certificates so it may well be that it was transcribed wrong. I have lots like this and you just have to use every possibility. If the image is on Scotlands People then I wouldn't bother sending off for it, as the certificate you receive will have exactly the same information. regards, Siobhan

Hi Anne, I wonder if the image on Scotlandspeople could be wrong!! I will just have to send for it and see. Many thanks will keep hold of that marriage you found until I find out about the daughters marriage from SP. Many Thanks Anne. p.s. I think I am slowly going round the bend with Innes and McKinnis!!

Hi Liz, Agnes Ann worked in the jute mills in Dundee but then so did most of the people in Dundee. My father and mother even worked there, gran and grandfather too. I don't know yet if Agnes had any siters but her mother was dead at the time of her marriage. Betty

Hi Betty, Do you know Agnes's occupation? There is an Agnes Innes age 16 in Dundee occ. Mill worker Jute There's no father listed with them only three sisters. Liz

Hi Val, Yes the name McKinnis is the problem, will just have to keep trying though. Betty

add another couple of years but it may be the spelling of last name as they did make mistakes

Hi Val, Thanks for having a look at the English 1881 census, no I think they were always in Scotland though moved around quite a bit. Many Thanks!! Betty

Not on 1881 Betty in England I had a look for you

Hi Anne, Thanks for you help!! Are you really a fellow Dundonian?? Bet you don't live here now though!! Born but not bred!! Betty

Hi Anne, Sorry I was back on Scotlands People there. Yes that could be him with the name Dye incorrectly done. Thanks Anne with Betsy the mother there too, looks like it is them, many thanks for your help. Oh Anne the Agnes McKinnis one is the worse of the two, can't even find her father John McKinnis in the 1881 census.. Betty

Hi JJH, Try Female 16-18, name Agnes, nothing Betty

Hi JJH, Yes I have been into them but none Agnes or Agnes Ann in Dundee with the correct age I mean. Betty

Hi JJH, Yes I tried various spelling of the names and ended up with no credits left on SP. I used the ages of the David Dye and Agnes Ann being between 16 and 18 years of age in the 1881 to be on the safe side but nothing, then I tried the parents, still nothing. Betty

Betty, there are 7 male McInnes and 10 female McInnes in Dundee in 1881. JJH Gotta go now Bye.

Betty, there are17 McInnes on SP in Dundee in 1881. JJH

Betty, just a thought but did you try spelling the name McInnes and see if that fits? JJH