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Hi, I have Walter Brown 1861 Basford, Nottingham. In 1901, he is in Nottingham with wife Eliza 1861 Nottm and loads of kids including Cyril 1897. In 1891, he is with wife Jane E 1861 Nottm 1881 wife Mary J 1861 Nottm. I am trying to work out if he had 3 different wives or if they were mistranscribed initials and are the same person or two people. Can anyone help? Cheers, Laura x

Laura Posting 1901 in full.....it may help Name: Cyril Brown Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation: Son Father's name: Walter Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Nottingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Bulwell ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 101 Household Members: Name Age Brown 1 month Albert Brown 8 Alice Brown 6 Annie Brown 19 Arnold Brown 11 Cyril Brown 4 Eliza Brown 40 Eliza Brown 17 Florance Brown 13 Frank Brown 15 Ivy Brown 2 Stella Brown 21 Walter Brown 40 Harry Ward 18 Reg

Hi Reggie and thanks, I do have them on census am just trying to suss if they are all different wifes or they just fancied changing their names to confuse me!!! Thanks for looking x

And 1891 in full Name: Stella E Brown Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Walter Mother's name: Jane E Gender: Female Where Born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Bulwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Bulwell County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub registration district: Bulwell ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Brown 9 Eliza Brown 7 Jane E Brown 30 Stella E Brown 11 Walter Brown 30 Arnold W Wels 1 Florence Wels 3 Frank Wels 5 Entirely possible that Jane E became Eliza by 1901! The three youngest children are described as 'son/dau'.............I suspect that their mother is Walter's second wife. Reg

I did think that Reggie, its the Mary J that confuses things!

Hi Laura I realised you had the census info.............I posted the full details in the hope that it might help others.............having the complete family can often be really useful. Reg

Thanks Reggie, didnt want you to trawl unnecessarily! Laura x

The occupation is often a lead. In 1881 and 1891 he is a shoemaker. (though wives are different).By 1901 he is a hawker. It could well be that Mary J died and he remarried. But he changes his occupation by 1901. There are more than one Walter Browns born 1861 in Notts. Could be just coincidence. Jo

Thanks Geoff, I think we can now begin to assume that Jane and Eliza are likely to be one person. Laura x

Why is she Mary in 1881, if she married in 1879 as Eliza? And where do the Wels children fit in? Reg

Hi Jo, the kids names match too which is why I have followed the line. There is another Walter but from a different area of Nottm, There is a member with him on here and I was able to count him out. Laura x

This birth will provide part of the answer............. Name: Stella Elizabeth Brown Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 323 Reg

As will this one............. Name: Cyril George Brown Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Basford County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 251 Reg

I hadnt noticed that before Reggie, the Wels thing! Aah, just adds to the confusion! I know 1901 is definitely mine, he was my grans grandad and she said he was a shoemaker, I also have his daughter Annies marriage and death which tie in. Gran can remember an uncle Arnold too which again ties in. Laura x

Hi Jo, just reread,he was always a shoemaker not a hawker.

Thanks all, I guess I will have to order the birth certificates to clear it up. Thanks again, Laura x