Find Ancestors

Still trying to find Elizabeth Mary strong (nee gallant) in 1891 census-She is not with husband Henry C H Strong as he is already with another lady!! I thought we had her earlier in Exeter Hospital-transcribed as Eloy A Strong-but middle initial is wrong and also she is down as a widow. Had a think on way to pick up kids! Please can anyone see another Elizabeth Strong-more likely to be in Crediton,Devon-that's where they lived in 1881 and thats where her death is registred (If its her which I'm 99%) in 1892) She was born 1851 Hookway,Crediton-O another death before then -after 1881-Maybe I've overlooked? Help-Its driving me nuts!

My g-g-grandmother is down as 'widow' on the 1891 although her husband was still alive and living just a few doors away from her, so that widow you found could be the one you are looking for. Maybe you could check if this widow is around on previous censuses, so you can rule her out? (Though I realise she could have married a Mr. Strong after 1881 and then been widowed) Kate.

Thanks for that-Could anyone check the image on 1891 for me of the one in hospital-and look carefully at the middle initial to see if it could be and M not an A as Transcribed-They got the first bit wrong as Eloy!!! ALso could someone check that birth place is Hookway for me?-Its a very small place-so if so -theres not likely to be two from there?

1881 Census Name: Elizabeth Strong Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Henry Gender: Female Where Born: Hookway, Devon, England Civil parish: Crediton County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Blatherstone Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Crediton Sub registration district: Crediton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Strong 30 Henry Strong 45 Henry Strong 7 FOR REF June x

HI On looking at the 1891 image for the one who was in the Hospital, I would go with my gut instinct on this one the I would say it shows as Eliza Strong the other names with a (z) in them look the same so it is not a (y) but a z. If you PM me I can send a copy of the image for you to look over, if you want. Wendy

Checked image for 1891 its clear and its says born Crediton ( widow ) Launderess could be Eliza June x

I dont think A was supose to be a middle initial more the transcriber messing it up

On the 1891 the patient's name says 'Eliza Strong' but the writing, although very neat, has an unusual version of 'z' and the 'a' is not joined on to the rest of the name. But it is a lower case 'a', and there are two others written the same on the page, so it definitely says 'Eliza'. But I wouldn't be surprised if the person filling in the form, or the enumerator, just wrote 'Eliza' short for Elizabeth, because it seems a bit unlikely that there would be 3 patients called Eliza and none called Elizabeth. Her occupation is 'Laundress' and her birthplace is 'Devon, Crediton'. Kate.

Hookway is Crediton-The age is right-He's not with her -How strange. I checked for another Mary A and there is oneother but she states she was born in Barnstaple-North devon-and she is still there on 1891-So not her!! It does look likely but just puzzles me she is a 'widow'. I'm always over cautious because else I get caught out!!! Don't want to up someone elses tree!

Hi ALL Thanks for all your help_I think I'm going to order the 1892 cert anyway and see what it says! I supppose even if she was ill and in Exeter-she might have died backwith family in Crediton-or they may have registered it there as that's where they lived.

If the husband was with another woman maybe they just had her registered as Widow to keep everything looking proper??

Wendy have PM'd you-thanks x

1891 Census Name: Mary A Strong Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Henry Gender: Female Where Born: Alphington, Devon, England Civil parish: St Sidwell Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Exeter County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Exeter Sub registration district: Exeter Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age *Caroline Gauntlett 70 *Lodger Bertie Strong 5 Chas Strong 6 Henry Strong 54 Mary A Strong 35 Percival Strong 1 Wilfred Strong 2 So is Caroline Elizabeths Mother June x

Marriages Sep 1892 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CARPENTER Mary Ann Exeter 5b 157 Strong Henry Charles H Exeter 5b 157 looks like he married Mary Ann after Elizabeth Died June x

Thats the marriage I have found-He was already living with her in 1891 though -when Presumedly Poor elizabeth was in Hospital!! He also names children with Mary Ann Carpenter (Who in 1881 was in the workhouse as an 'idiot from birth)!!-after his wfie no. 1 (That was in 1868 in India!!!) she was called Winifred and I think her death is registered in 1881 at Portsea Island-so she died on the way back. He then wasted no time marrying Elizabeth Mary Gallant-I think this lady Carolines name may be mistranscribed -that could be Gallant-Or the Marriage transcription is wrong! I've checked for deaths of other people with elizabeth in hospital-everyone of them so far died in 1891 or 1892-So the death I found looks even more likely to be her-I wondr if it was something Like TB?

So whats the opinion then-Does it look probable we have a three time marrying man who dumps his wife in a hospital and maried immediately shes dead-neatly naming his last daughter after his first wife! ANd his last wife was supposedly an idiot! bot not mentioned on 1901 so perhapsher family had just run out of money and she was the least use to them? Sad times. And poor old Henry died in Exeter in 1914 and was buried in a Paupers grave with not even a headstone. Three wives 11 children and nothing to show he's been here!-except me born over a century later than him-Strange isn't it! Thanks everyone for all your help-they are a real muddle this lot. This is the second time I've explored all this-to make sure I'm not falling into a trap-But with oyur help I have come up with thesame answers as before-WHich is great.Many Many thanks all.x