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Birth lookup Dalton please

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Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 4 Nov 2006 15:13

Hi, Looking for a birth lookup for my Great Grandfather have tried before but don't think that Dalton has been transcribed. James Shepherd Born?1844 Dalton ,Lancashire Mother Ann Father Joseph Allinson Born Dalton Lancashire Don't think the father's name will be on the birth cert as there is a notation on his death cert that the name should not be there. He immirgrated to Australia and married a Mary Bryant.They married in 1874. Have the information that he was born in Dalton from some of the death notices's in the newspaper.Any information would be great. Thanks for any help. Sue

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 4 Nov 2006 15:27

Hi Sue, is it Dalton Kendal or Wigan? If Kendal, there is this one. Sheperd James, Kendal, xxv 479, Q4 1844

Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 4 Nov 2006 15:27

Ulverston is the reg district that covers Dalton: Births Sep 1844 Shepherd James Ulverstone 25 206

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 4 Nov 2006 15:31

Deborah, Ulverston covers Dalton in Furness, is that what is wanted?

~Summer Scribe~

~Summer Scribe~ Report 4 Nov 2006 15:33

Hiya, I live in Barrow, next town over from Dalton. If you have anything else that needs looking up (requiring the records office etc), I'd be happy to help. Liz

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 4 Nov 2006 15:33

I thought it would be under Wigan. Kath. x

~Summer Scribe~

~Summer Scribe~ Report 4 Nov 2006 15:40

That's a fair point. There are several Daltons lol. I never even considered that. I'm not sure when Dalton began to be Dalton in Furness. To Clarify there are now three Daltons that were in Lancs. Dalton (in Furness) which is now in Cumbria. (from what I've seen of census returns it's usually just listed as Dalton) This is the one that I live by. Dalton, Burton-on-Kendal (Lancs border with Westmorland) Dalton, Wigan. Liz

Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 4 Nov 2006 15:43

Keith maybe not - me geography its a wee bit scrappy lol had no idea that there are THREE dalton's in lancashire

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 4 Nov 2006 15:47

Hi Keith, Don't know all i have in the newspaper death notices is born Dalton Lancashire. I have just aplied for that birth cert and it is not his. Thanks anyway for the the time and info sent . Rgards Sue

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 4 Nov 2006 15:51

Hi Sue, have checked 1843-1845 and cannot see another born either in Wigan or Kendal, maybe you are unlucky and he was not registered, it was not compulsary until 1875. OR if you are not sure which Dalton, it could be the one Deborah found.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 4 Nov 2006 15:51

Since the birth is c.1844, it could be that it wasn't registered at all (not compulsory until 1875) so there may not be a birth certificate to find. Have you found them on an early census. which might give an indication of which Dalton it was? Kath. x

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 4 Nov 2006 15:52

Hi Liz, zThanks for th reply.As i live in Oz don't know anything about the districts in England.Have been trying to trace this birth for about the last 12 months but no joy.It is through his birth cert htat i think he might have been born out of wedlock,because of notification on the death cert that Joseph allinson as father should not have been noted. Any help would be great. Thanks Sue

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 4 Nov 2006 15:56

If you are not sure which Dalton, it could be the one Deborah found.

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 4 Nov 2006 16:02

Hi Kathleen, Had no luck in finding them on any census. Regards Sue

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 4 Nov 2006 16:03

Have just been sent a photo of his headstone which makes him born in 1843.Thought it was only woman that were aloud to change there age. Sue

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 4 Nov 2006 16:07

Thanks Deb, Will apply for that birth and se if i have any luck. Reagards Sue

~Summer Scribe~

~Summer Scribe~ Report 4 Nov 2006 16:10

They were all at it Sue with the age changing... some just didn't know how old they were and some did it so they could get married without parental response. They're all as bad as each other *winks* Have you tried finding his mother on the 1841 census, if you can find it, the other entries around it on the original image will give an indication of which dalton (hopefully lol)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 4 Nov 2006 16:14

I wouldn't rely on the age on the headstone being right either. My grandmother's headstone said she was 44 when she died. She was actually only 42. Kath. x