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Martha's death????? Name: Martha Crouch Year of Registration: 1841 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Hitchin County: Bedfordshire Volume: 6 Page: 375 And Thomas's???? Name: Thomas Crouch Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Hitchin County: Bedfordshire Volume: 6 Page: 411 Reg

From the IGI.....referring to the family in 1841......... Crouch, British Isles Father: Thomas , Mother: Martha Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C048111 1. EMMA CROUCH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 25 NOV 1825 Hitchin, Hertford, England 2. SARAH CROUCH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 21 NOV 1827 Hitchin, Hertford, England The marriage cert for John and Emma would confirm her father's name and occupation. Also from the IGI THOMAS CROUCH Male Spouse: MARTHA DEACON Marriage: 26 NOV 1823 St Mary, Hitchin, Hertford, England Reg Reg

Hi Esta, Yes he definately married an Emma Crouch.One of the daughters were called Emma also and she was my GG Grandmother.

Esta, Thankyou for getting that info for me.....you are all truly a wonderful bunch of people.

Marriage ref : Name: John Freeborn Year of Registration: 1847 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Shoreditch County: London Volume: 2 Page: 361 (click to see others on page) John Cox 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Emma Crouch 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Edward Darby 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Mary Ann Flowers 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London John Freeborn 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Eliza Saunders 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Emma Treadaway 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Robert Withrington 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London I notice there are 2 Emma's - are you sure he married Emma crouch - A childs BC would confirm it.

Marriage ref : Name: John Freeborn Year of Registration: 1847 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Shoreditch County: London Volume: 2 Page: 361 (click to see others on page) John Cox 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Emma Crouch 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Edward Darby 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Mary Ann Flowers 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London John Freeborn 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Eliza Saunders 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Emma Treadaway 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London Robert Withrington 1847 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London I notice there are 2 Emma's - are you sure he married Emma crouch - A childs BC would confirm it.

Hi Elaine, Thankyou so much,you are an angel....i did wonder what a victualler was,i thought it might have had something to do with selling spirits etc,so it all makes sense,he might've had a pub and of course thats where the others come into it!!

DO you have 1881...makes intersting reading ! John FREEBORN Head M Male 71 Gt Ellingham, Norfolk, England Greengrocer Emma FREEBORN Wife M Female 55 Hertford, Hertford, England John FREEBORN Son M Male 31 Ware, Hertford, England Greengrocer Julia FREEBORN Daur U Female 21 Ware, Hertford, England Dressmaker Thomas FREEBORN Son Male 16 Wades Mills, Hertford, England Frederick FREEBORN Son Male 14 Ware, Hertford, England Henry FREEBORN Son Male 12 Ware, Hertford, England George FREEBORN Son Male 11 Islington, Middlesex, England Eliza FREEBORN Daur In Law M Female 28 Ware, Hertford, England Julia FREEBORN Grand Daur Female 4 Hertford, Hertford, England Frederick FREEBORN Grandson Male 2 Hertford, Hertford, England John FREEBORN Grandson Male 1 Hertford, Hertford, England Mary A. COPSEY Visitor U Female 47 Ware, Hertford, England Ladys Maid (Unemployed) Charles BLAND Boarder M Male 30 Ware, Hertford, England Coach Builder 6 Birkbeck Rd Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341056 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0257 / 8 Page Number 9

Reg, These look as though it could definately be the parents and sibling of Emma.......Thankyou.

Elaine.....Who would the Beards be.....lodgers???

Hi Yes i think this would be the family...some of the names i have already so it looks like you have cracked it!!.Thankyou x

Thanks for the replies....pc had a blip and wouldn't send message,in the end when i put the other one on,the previous message appeared!!!!

bump it up with the other one if you want to reply to your thread just click on add reply at top of page Jeanette

Husband JOHN FREEBORN Birth: Christening: Marriage: 23 JUN 1847 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England Death: Burial: Wife EMMA CROUCH Birth: Christening: Marriage: 23 JUN 1847 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England Death: Burial:

Any good? 1841 Emma Crouch abt 1824 Hertfordshire, England Hitchin Hertfordshire View Record Martha Crouch abt 1787 Hertfordshire, England Hitchin Hertfordshire View Record Sarah Crouch abt 1827 Hertfordshire, England Hitchin Hertfordshire View Record Thomas Crouch abt 1786 Hitchin Hertfordshire Occ: Labourer Reg

When did they marry? Have you traced them in 1841? Reg

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me to get some background information on John and Emma Freeborn.John was born in Hertfordshire in about 1810.Emma (nee Crouch) we think was born in or around 1827.They married and went on to have 11 children. I have tried numerous ways to find out about them but have sadly failed in my attempts. I would appreciate any info that i get,and hopefully i can start moving again and try to go further back. Many many thanks to anyone who can help, Nicki.