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i am trying to find any info on Margaret Bate born round 1868c I know she married John Rigby and had a son John on 5/6/1897 in st helens lancashire....but nothing else....so any help wud be brill....Joanie

have you got the 1901 census for her birthplace You will deffo need the marraige cert to match a fathers name 1881 census Margaret Bate Thomas, Ann abt 1869 Aughton, Lancashire, England Daughter Aughton Lancashire Margaret Bate Ellen abt 1869 Rainhill, Lancashire, England Daughter Rainhill Lancashire Margaret Bate John, Maria abt 1868 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter Skelmersdale Lancashire Margaret A. Bate Sammuel, Alice abt 1870 Golborne, Lancashire, England Daughter Golborne Lancashire Margaret A. Bate Mary abt 1867 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Step Daughter Little Hulton Lancashire Margaret A. Bate Matthew, Hannah abt 1870 Parr, Lancashire, England Daughter Tyldesley cum Shakerley Lancashire Margret Ann Bate William, Catherine abt 1866 Openshaw, Lancashire, England Daughter Doncaster Yorkshire Margt. Bate Philip (Jno), Elizth. abt 1866 Kenyon, Lancashire, England Daughter Kenyon Lancashire

Here are a couple of birth reg's... Margaret Bate 1868 Apr-May-Jun Prescot Lancashire or *Margaret Alice Bate 1869 Oct-Nov-Dec Prescot Lancashire Jo

No ...i only have the birth cert for my grandfather, took me 2 yrs to find that....as i have only found my birth fathers family who came from st helens lancs....Joanie

On your grandfathers birth certificate what occupation is recorded for his father?

Looks like i need to find marriage of John Rigby and Margaret Bate....thanks everyone ....Joanie

bricklayer - journeyman...address 23 worsley brow st helens

The ONLY John with a mother named Margaret in St Helens.......... but father is James a GLASS WORKER 1901 England Census about John Rigby Name: John Rigby Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation: Son Father's name: James Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age James Rigby 35 James Rigby 6 John Rigby 2 Joseph Rigby 11 Margaret Rigby 30 Mary Rigby 8 Winifred Rigby 3 months Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3519; Folio: 143; Page: 24.

Deb....his father is John...tring to find my grandpa John b.1897 wasnt easy, as name was some times spelt rigley on records...Joanie

Here they are under RIGLEY: 1901 England Census about John Rigley Name: John Rigley Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: Parr Mount Holy Trinity Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 183 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Rigley 2 Edward Rigley 12 Emily Rigley 5 Harold Rigley 7 months Harry Rigley 10 Hinda Rigley 7 John Rigley 35 born: St Helens, Lancashire John Rigley 4 Margaret Rigley 33 born: St Helens, Lancashire Thomas Rigley 13 William Rigley 9

Marriage: Marriages Mar 1887 BATE Margaret Prescot 8b 750 RIGBY John Prescot 8b 750

Thanks Deb, i have a peice of paper says they married 1895...but cannot remember were i got it from......thank u for ur kind help will try and check it out......Joanie

That is brill thank u Debs, i can get the marriage cert now....and go back from there.....best wishes Joanie

Your very welcome. In 1891 the family are living with John's mother: 1891 England Census about Thomas Rigby Name: Thomas Rigby Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation: Grandson Father's name: John Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Sutton Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas Town: St Helens County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Rigby 2 Harry Rigby 8/12 John Rigby 25 Margaret Rigby 24 Martha Rigby 12 ( John's sister) Sarah Rigby 42 born: St Helens, Lancashire Thomas Rigby 4 Place of birth recorded for John is Sutton Lancs The Address is 23 Worsley Brow

Thank you Debs its my birthday in 10 mins and u have given me a nice present here....lots to match up......thanks for ur kind help.....Joanie

A very happy birthday to you Joanie.............hope its a lovely day for you . Much happiness Deborah

happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear Joanie happy birthday to you

Thank u..for the kind wishes.....i will be making texan margaritas later today to celebrate......Joanie