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New Info. Just got off the phone to Charles Parkins./ Perkins grandson. Charles was also known as James!!!!! Can anyone find him as James? Sorry to be such a nuisance. I am looking for Charles Perkins or Parkins born Deptford 1875. Bear with me while I put up the 1881 census. Charles did not have a father and he was not with his mother. He could be with anybody. Thanks for any help Selena

This is the 1881. Charles BROMLEY Head W Male 29 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Vellum Binder Hannah BROMLEY Mother W Female 69 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Charles BALEMAN Stepson Male 14 Paddington, Middlesex, England Charles PERKINS Nephew Male 5 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar Dwelling 10 St Nicholas St Census Place Deptford St Paul, Kent, England Family History Library Film 1341166 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0712 / 93 Page Number 13 Charles Bromley may have died in Mar 1891. We believe Charles Perkins/Parkins was brought up by an aunt on his maternal side. Thanks,. Selena

Hi Selena Done both spelling and its showing nothing at the moment

Theres this one but just saying born in England Charles Perkins Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Regent ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frances Mc Gurgan 33 Frances Mc Gurgan 6 Hugh Mc Gurgan 40 Hugh Mc Gurgan 9 Mary Ann Mc Gurgan 11 Rose Mc Gurgan 3 Charles Perkins 15 Beatrice Smith 12 Charlotte Smith 41 Edward Smith 18 George Smith 14 Walter Smith 15

Julie, thanks for that. I can't see who is the head of the household? I am trying to work out who Charles is nephew to. Thanks Selena

Julie, thanks so much for your time. Much appreciated. Selena

I found this marriage Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elliott Mary Pancras 1b 279 >>>McGurgan Hugh Pancras 1b 279 OWLETT John Webb Pancras 1b 279 >>Perkins Frances Pancras 1b 279

Selena head of house is Hugh Mc Gurgan and hes a Police Constable and Charlotte Smith is Hugh's sister

Julie thanks for that. May I just ask if you were looking for nephews only, or any Charles Perkins of the right age? Thanks again, Selena

I first looked for Charles born Deptford and nothing came up. Then did Charles born kent and years and nothing so looked for Charles as Nephew

I looked on BMD and the only marriage for Frances coming up that i could see was to Hugh, see what happens when the M/C comes Julie

Do you know who Charles parents were and i'll see if i can find Frances with Charles dad

Julie this is so weird. I have a Frances Perkins marrying Charles Bromley in 1879, certificate is due 14 March! Got to think this one though! Selena

Selena thats ok about the long message lol I look on the 1881 for Frances and Hugh and they have a Charles with them so it cant be the right one sorry Julie

Julie thanks for all your help. I'm sorry if I didn't give all the facts. Frances Perkins married William Bateman in 1859. Had son Charles Bateman around 1867 William Bateman died in 1870 Frances Bateman (nee Perkins) marries Charles Bromley 1879 (pending certificate). Charles Bateman on 1881 (mistranscribed as Baleman) with stepfather Charles Bromley and Charles Perkins. Frances Bromley (formerly Bateman, nee Perkins) died in 1880 (pending certificate) Charles Perkins/Parkins was born in 1875 to Sarah Perkins/Parkins. No father. Sarah gave him to her sister Frances Perkins to look after. I am trying to find out what happened to Charles after auntie Frances died. If only they weren't all called Charles! Sorry for long message!

Julie thanks for all your help, it is appreciated. Selena

Selena I had another good look going all different ways i could think of and still could find anything Julie

Julie thanks. I suspect that he took on uncle's surname for the 1891 and that's why we can't find him. I have had this happen before. I've just got to weed through the aunties and uncles now. Cheers, Selena

see new info at top. Was also known as James (!). Thanks Selena

1891 not sure if this is worth posting or not as could be a complete red herring Name: James Charles Parkes Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Deptford, London, England Civil parish: St Nicholas Ecclesiastical parish: Deptford St Nicholas Town: Deptford County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Nicholas Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Adelaide Farley 13 Alfred Thos Farley 38 Edith Mary Farley 2 Eliza Farley 66 Eliza E Farley 7 Emily Farley 38 Maud Louisa Farley 4 Rosa E Farley 10 James Charles Parkes 15 Ada E Thacker 9 Amy Alma Thacker 1 Annie Ruth Thacker 4 Joseph Robt Thacker 38 Sarah Ann Elizth Thacker 11 Sarah Jane Thacker 38 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 507; Folio 77; Page 22; GSU roll: 6095617 Think I need a second opinion on this one as image could be Parkens or Parkins