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Even More Staffordshire Help Required Please - New

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Julie

Julie Report 21 Mar 2007 20:21

Hi Please can anybody help me. I'm trying to trace the ancestors of Edward Fennel / Fennell born c1839 Staffordshire. He married Asenath / Eseneath Armstrong 1859 Stourbridge. He has been traced on the 1881 census living in Altofts, Wakefield, Yorkshire with his wife and children Edward, Joseph, Sarah, Ben, Samuel, Eliza and Harriet. Edward was a coal miner so presume this is why he moved around the country. I have been unable to trace him any early - anybody up for a challenge?? Here's hoping. Julie

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 21:03

What about his wife? Have you traced her? Possibility? Marriages Mar 1859 Armstrong Arenath Stourbridge 6c 189 .....>>>Armstrong Asenath Stourbridge 6c 189 .....>>>FENNELL Edward Stourbridge 6c 189 Mullett James Stourbridge 6c 189 Pitt Elizabeth Stourbridge 6c 189

Julie

Julie Report 21 Mar 2007 21:06

Hi Thanks - that is the correct wedding - not doing too bad on her side (got another thread going for that) traced her father and Grandfather - it's Edward who is the mystery man! Julie

Penny

Penny Report 21 Mar 2007 21:11

can we have the 1881 for ref please with the childrens birthplaces , its does help Got them Benn. Fennel 7 Altofts Edward Fennel 42 Staffordshire, England Edward Fennel 19 Eseneath Eliza E. Fennel 3 Altofts Eseneath Fennel 42 Staffordshire, England Harriett Fennel Joseph Fennel 17 Staffordshire, England Saml. Fennel 5 Sarah Fennel 15 Staffordshire, England

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 21:17

So what do you have of Aseneth & Edward? What censuses? Ozi.

Julie

Julie Report 21 Mar 2007 21:17

Sorry - will bear that in mind for next time. Julie

Penny

Penny Report 21 Mar 2007 21:19

1871 Name: Joseph Tennell Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Father's name: Edward Mother's name: Aseniath Gender: Male Where born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Normanton Town: Normanton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Sandal ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 450 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Armstrong 25 Lodger Emma Armstrong 3 Lodger John Armstrong 23 Lodger Mary Armstrong 1 Lodger Aseniath Tennell 32 Kingswinford, Staffordshire, Aseniath Tennell 3 Staveley, Derbyshire, England Edward Tennell 32 Kingswinford, Staffordshire Edward Tennell 9 Kingswinford, Staffordshire Joseph Tennell 7 Kingswinford, Staffordshire Sarah Tennell 5 Kingswinford, Staffordshire Wm Tennell 1 Staveley, Derbyshire, England

Julie

Julie Report 21 Mar 2007 21:28

Hi Scarlett Ribbons Gosh - do you think name was misheard for the census? Are you a part time detective? Thanks for that one - is it spelt the same for the 1861 / 1851 ? Julie

Julie

Julie Report 21 Mar 2007 21:40

Hi Ozibird Well I had the 1901 census living at 4 Silkstone Row, Altofts, Wakefield, Yorkshire (sorry no ref) Edward (son of Edward & Asenath, 39), wife Elizabeth children Sarah, John, William, Ellen, Joseph, Harry, Albert and George. 1891 census living in Altofts, Wakfield, Yorkshire (sorry no ref again) Edward, wife Asenia (Eseneath / Asenath) and children Benjamin, Edward, Harriett and Samuel 1881 census living again in Portland Terrace, Altofts, Wakefield, Yorkshire (sorry no ref - please don't be cross - i'm only learning) Edward, wife Eseneath and children Benn, Edward, Eliza E, Harriett, Joseph, Saml and Sarah. 1871 as Scarlett Ribbons For My Hair kindly listed. Julie

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Mar 2007 21:42

1851 census Kingswinford, Staffordshire George Fennel, head, 39, coalminer Sarah, wife, 38 Harriet, dau, 12 Edward, son, 10 Joseph, son, 8 All born Kingswinford, Staffordshire.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 21:43

1851: Name: Edward Fennel Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Kingswinford Ecclesiastical parish: Brockmoor County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: St by Sun (I think?) Occupation: none stated Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Kingswinford Household Members: Name Age George Fennel 39 - coal miner Sarah Fennel 38 Harriet Fennel 12 Edward Fennel 10 Joseph Fennel 8 All born Kingswinford

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 21:47

1841: Name: Edward Fennelle Age: 9 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Kingswinford Hundred: North Seisdon County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Brockmore Source information: HO107/996/15 Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Kingswinford George Fennelle abt 1816 Staffordshire, England Kingswinford Staffordshire - coalminer Sarah Fennelle abt 1816 Staffordshire, England Kingswinford Staffordshire Hariat Fennelle abt 1839 Staffordshire, England Kingswinford Staffordshire Edward Fennelle abt 1840 Staffordshire, England Kingswinford Staffordshire

Julie

Julie Report 21 Mar 2007 21:53

Wow thanks for this everybody - cant believe how the surname changed. Julie

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 21:54

Births Dec 1838 FENNELL Harriet Stourbridge 18 415 Births Sep 1840 Fennell Edward Stourbridge 18 434 I wonder if this might be Edward's aunt? Marriages Jun 1843 BOWDEN Anne Stourbridge 18 533 DAVIES Benjamin Stourbridge 18 533 .....>>>FENNELL Harriett Stourbridge 18 533 HARRIS John Stourbridge 18 533 HODJETTS Joseph Stourbridge 18 533 JONES Mary Stourbridge 18 533 TOLLEY Sarah Stourbridge 18 533

Penny

Penny Report 21 Mar 2007 22:05

Mum and dad in 1901 Name: Asenath Fennell Age: 63 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Edward Gender: Female Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Featherstone Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Featherstone County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Pontefract Sub-registration district: Pontefract ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 181 Household Members: Name Age Asenath Fennell 63 Benjamin Fennell 27 Edward Fennell 60 Samuel Fennell 25

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 22:06

Edward's brother Joseph, 1881: Name: Joseph Fennel Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Brockmor, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hunslet County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 6 Villa Terrace Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Hunslet Household Members: Name Age Joseph Fennel 37 Mary Fennel 32 - b. Hucknall, Notts William Fennel 8 - b. Newthorpe, Notts

Penny

Penny Report 21 Mar 2007 22:08

Mothers death Name: Asenith Fennell Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 66 District: Wakefield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 18 ------------------ could be the daughter as she seems to disappear Name: Ascenath Fennell Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 5 District: Wakefield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 7 ------------------ Edward too maybe Name: Edward Fennell Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Year of Registration: 1903 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 63 District: Wakefield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 10 ----------------------------- This seems a bit of a co-incedence - maybe the wanted to carry on mothers name?( or maybe i am getting carried away!) Name: Asenath Fennell Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 0 District: Wakefield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 7 Birth:of the above Avenath Fennell Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Wakefield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 17

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Mar 2007 22:13

Joseph again, 1871: Name: Joseph Fennell Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Brick Hill, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Greasley Town: Newthorpe County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Newthorpe Occupation: coal miner Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley Household Members: Name Age Joseph Fennell 28 Mary Fennell 22 Sarah Elizh Fennell 3

Julie

Julie Report 22 Mar 2007 21:32

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