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Samuel Driver. I thnk he married a Betty. Hes on the 1841 census born Thornton West Yorks 1816 living with a Betty born Thornton. They live with Samuels parents & David born 1828 is their nephew & i presume Nathan born 1838 is Samuel & Betty's Son. But I cant find a marriage???

Nic, Registration of bmds did not start until September 1837 ........ so unless they married after this date, you will not find them on freebmd or the bmds on ancestry. I've looked on freebmd, and while I can find several Samuel Drivers married between September 1837 and 1850, there was only one Elizabth, and that was in Sheffield. They may NOT have married, of course! Have you looked on the mormon site (www.familysearch.org) to see whether the parish records have been put on there? Of course, you could always buy the brth certificate for one or more of their children .... that will tell you the mother's maiden name Sylvia (in Canada)

This could be Nathan's birth registration ............... assuming Bradford the register office for Thornton??? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1839 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Driver Nathan Bradford 23 199

Thanx Sylvia, Yes Ive looked on Family Search but to no avail. i'll have to bet the birth cert. Samuel is on the 1851 census with 3 other children but is down as widowed, so she must have died bet 1846 & 1851 Nic..

1851 Census .......... looks like Nathan was Samuel's son. about Samuel Driver Name: Samuel Driver Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thornton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Thornton ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Driver 7 b. ca 1844, Thornton Faith Driver 5 b. ca 1846, Thornton John Driver 8 b. ca 1843, Thornton Nathan Driver 11 b. ca 1840, Thornton, Errand Boy Samuel Driver 38 Loomer of Warps (Cotton) Address:- School Green, Thornton

Hi nic, I looked for a death ... problem is was she really a Betty or an Elizabeht known as Betty? I did find this death registraiton for a betty, registered in Bradford which is where Nathan's birth was registered:- Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Driver Betty Bradford Y 23 150 - - - - Sylvia

?Faith's birth registration Births Sep 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DRIVER Faith Bradford Yks 23 241 - - - Abraham??? Births Sep 1843 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DRIVER Abraham Bradford Y 23 226 Sylvia

Hi Sylvia, that date sounds about right. she had Faith in 1846?? Bradford was the nearest District to Thornton. Thank you very much for your help.

I also found the death of a Male Driver in December 1848, Bradford, though not on the same page as Betty ........ is it stretching it to suggest that that might be her baby? Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>Driver Betty Bradford Y 23 150 Driver Sarah Bradford Y 23 146 >>>>Driver Male Bradford Y 23 147

Samuel died also bet 1851 & 1861 as faith was living with her uncle on 1861 & 71 census

She could have died in childbirth - was very common in them days wasn't it?? Thanks agian

Sylvia - Where are you lookin for these deaths etc. Nic

It certainly was!! But also lots of deaths from phthisis .............. or TB as we now call it!! Might be worth spending £7 to order her death certificate from GRO! Of course, you'd have to hope it is the right Betty!!! Sylvia

Nic, Go to www.freebmd.org.uk It's a work in progress ........ volunteers are slowly but surely inputting all the registrations from September 1837 to the present day on to the web. They are currently upto about 1915. Ancestry uk is also carrying these same records, although a little behind freebmd as ancestry downloads from freebmd. The advantage on ancestry is that they are also carrying the Complete Index from 1837 to about 2005 ..................... but you have to search that quarter by quarter, year by year so it can be very time-consumning. BUT it is the only way to find registration information after about 1910 or 1915. It is FREE to register with ancestry to look at all the bmds. Sylvia

Hi Yes I am a member of Ancestry & have searched the free bmd but i didn't find the info you found for me. thank you xx

Nic, Yoo're very welcome!! Sylvia.xx