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Briliant news, I know how you must be feeling it's wonderful to get that break through. Good luck! Linda x

Danuella well done, I was just about to say I dont think we have been much help. Goodnight. Georgina.

AH I'VE FOUND HIM WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO Births Jun 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whiting Willie Fen Samford 4a 846 Thanks so much for all your help guys i really really do appreciate it,i've been searching for his birth for 2 years i cant believe i've found him at last. Hugs xx

Think i may have found Elizabeths birth as where they were living in 1891 is the outskirts of Ipswich bordering on Sproughton so this could be her Births Sep 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whiting Elizabeth Samford 4a 806 Whiting Elizabeth Emily Samford 4a 813 Or possibly the one you found Georgina as Ann was baptised Annie Eliza!!

This could be the other William Whiting on the 1901 census... Name: William Whiting Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 106 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Matton 19 Eliza Whiting 29 William Whiting 29 William Whiting 5 Georgina.

I wonder if this is his sisters birth... Births Dec 1896 (>99%) Whiting Eliza Ipswich 4a 928

Thanks so much Georgina,so my William def has to be the one 1891 but where is he on Census??,his mother anns maiden name was Stannard but she was a widow when she married William Senior her name then was crooks,she was living the same road as William senior with her other children 1891?? Oh why cant i find there births Argghhh xx

1901 Name: Kate Gorringe Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Ada Gorringe 8 Bertram Gorringe 4 Cyril Gorringe 10 months Kate Gorringe 25 William Gorringe 7 image says she is married but no hubby at home

Thankyou Linda that at least rules that William out then!! 1 more to go..could you see if you can track down the other William Bilner Whiting bn 1895 i believe his parents are William and Eliza,but if thats not him either where was my William in 1891 as the census was taken 5 Apr and the birth i think is him is registered Jan-Mar 1891?? xx

Linda beat me to it LOL. William Gorringe must be at Sea when the 1901 census was taken. Georgina.

Daniella, William Gorring was a boarder with the Fenning family in 1891, he was a Seaman born in Yorkshire. So the William Fenn Gorringe born 1893 must be their son if they married in 1892. I will check for the family in 1901. Georgina.

I saw that as well and thought about that,Ok a bit more background info Mary Ann Bilner had a son William Fenn Bilner Later that year Mary Ann married Fenn Fenning,then she died Oct as you saw in 1891 he is listed as being Fenn Fennings son,i know that my Gt Grandad was definatly called William Fenn on wedding and death surname was Whiting,but as you spotted Georgina there is the William Fenn Gorring BUT i didnt notice the person with my Gt Gt grandad in 1891 could someone tell me where he said he was born also what he did for a living. Ok William George Gorringe married Kate Fenning (William Fenn seniors sister)1892 Ipswich a year before William Fenn was born can anyone find that family in 1901 please xx

Danuella on the 1891 census with William Fenn Whiting there is a William Gorring. There is this birth in 1893 in Ipswich I wonder if it is connected? Births Dec 1893 (>99%) Gorringe William Fenn Ipswich 4a 821 Georgina.

I see from the 1891 census his father was William Fenn Whiting (mistranscribed as Fenning in 1891) Name: William Fenn Fenning Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's name: Fenn Mother's name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: Hemingstone, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Sproughton Ecclesiastical parish: Sproughton Town: Sproughton County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Samford Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Fenn Fenning 57 Harriet Fenning 52 Harriet J Fenning 17 Harry E Fenning 18 Honor Fenning 12 Kate Fenning 15 Mary Fenning 13 William Fenn Fenning 28 William Gorring 20 Georgina.

Just posting the 1901 census for reference... Name: Willm Whiting Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Hemingstone, Suffolk, England Civil parish: St Matthew Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: Ipswich Western ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 170 Household Members: Name Age Alfd Crooks 14 Fredk Crooks 16 John Crooks 18 Ann Whiting 45 Lizzie Whiting 6 Willm Whiting 38 Willm Whiting 9 Georgina.

Hiya all this is gonna sound a bit confusing so please bear with me!! I find my Gt Grandad William Whiting in 1901 in Ipswich (suffolk) with his parents William bn 1863 Hemingstone mother Ann bn 1854 Ipswich step brothers in the surname crroks and sister Lizzie bn c 1895,my problem is this.He maried in the name William Fenn Whiting,i cant find an exact birth record for that name,the closest i have is William Whiting bn Jan-Mar 1891 and William Bilner Whiting bn 1895 both Ipswich.I beleive he is the one born 1891 BUT i havent found him in 1891,both his parents yes (they arent married at this time,they married later that year) My Gt grandad married 1919 to Rose Granger.Any help on this is much appreciated,also i cant find his sisters birth. In 1901 he is listed aged 9 xx His father was illegitimate and baptised in the name Bilner but the family used the name Whiting