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Marriages for 3 of Joseph's children in case you don't have them already.

Name: Eliza Couldrey
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1859
Age: 21
Father's Name: Joseph Couldrey
Spouse's Name: Benjamin Roberts
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Roberts
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1880
Marriage Place: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Name: George Couldrey
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1862
Age: 21
Father's Name: Joseph Couldrey
Spouse's Name: Alice Meeson
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Meeson
Marriage Date: 3 Dec 1883
Marriage Place: Rushall, Staffordshire, England

Name: Walter William Couldrey
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1867
Age: 29
Father's Name: Joseph Couldrey
Spouse's Name: Agnes Bird
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Father's Name: Philip Bird
Marriage Date: 24 May 1896
Marriage Place: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

and baptisms for 3 children of son John Thomas Couldrey and wife Elizabeth;

Name: Frank Couldrey
Birth Date: 27 Jan 1885
Parish: Leeds, St Andrew
Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1886
Father's Name: John Thomas Couldrey
Mother's name: Elizabeth Couldrey

Name: Frederick Couldrey
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1886
Parish: Leeds, St Andrew
Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1886
Father's Name: John Thomas Couldrey
Mother's name: Elizabeth Couldrey

Name: Ethel Couldrey
Birth Date: 4 Oct 1891
Parish: Leeds, St Andrew
Baptism Date: 21 Oct 1891
Father's Name: John Thomas Couldrey
Mother's name: Elizabeth Couldrey

In 1871 Joseph and Elizabeth have a daughter Eliza, the same age as granddaughter Eliza who was with Charles and Caroline in 1861.

Joseph and Elizabeth's son Walter in 1871is a lot younger than Charles's grandson Walter in 1861, but perhaps the first Walter died and his name was reused?

COULDRY, Joseph Head M 35 1836 Gloucestershire
COULDRY, Elizabeth Wife F 33 1838 Worcestershire
>>>COULDRY, Eliza Daughter F 14 1857 Worcestershire
COULDRY, George Son M 7 1864 Worcestershire
COULDRY, Jemima A Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire
COULDRY, Walter Son M 3 1868 Worcestershire
COULDRY, Ernest Son M 2 1869 Lancashire

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Piece:
2996 Folio:
27 Page:
48 Registration District:
Dudley

Civil Parish:
Tipton Municipal Borough:

Address:
Bargeson Canal The Trafalgar, Tipton County:
Staffordshire

Charles' death? Bit younger than in census material.

Deaths Mar 1885
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Couldrey Charles 73 Walsall 6b 441

There are several IGI submitted records for the marriage of Timothy Gardiner and Hester Sutton:

25 NOV 1811 Bisley, Gloucester, England

Caroline died in 1872, which ties in with Charles having moved in with son Joseph and family by 1881:


Deaths Sep 1872
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COULDRY Caroline 60 Dudley 6c 43


There is this IGI submitted record for the baptism of a Caroline Gardiner

15 NOV 1812 Bisley, Gloucester, England

Parents:
Father: Timothy Gardiner
Mother: Hester Sutton

Although Caroline claims to be about 3 years younger in census 1861/71 .

Hi Alan....you need to delete the thread you have posted on the "Chat" board and start one on here.

I suggest you go through all the above info first..........then you can tell us if and what further information you might need,

Good luck. :-)

Many thanks to you all for the information shared. This is all very helpful and I will now continue my research.

I will also take the advice of PricklyHolly and start my own thread, so if you've left information here, of course I won't expect you to repeat on my own thread.

Many thanks again
Alan.

PS... If you are new and come acrosss this thread, feel free to add your comments here.

I've seent Alan a message telling him to return

IGI has submitted record of a marriage for a Charles Couldree

Spouse: CAROLINE GARDINER
Marriage: 24 FEB 1834 Bisley, Gloucester, England

EDIT: Bisley is very close to Chalford, where both Caroline and Charles Couldrey claim to come from in census 1871 (though he says born Wiltshire in 1861 census)

Chalford and Bisley are also both very close to Stroud.

:-S

??????

Born Wiltshire according to census 1861


Name: Charles Coldrey
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1809
Christening Date: 7 May 1809
Christening Place: Cricklade, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: Daniel Coldrey
Mother's name: Francis

Same couple in 1871

Name: Charles Couldry
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Couldry
Gender: Male
Where born: Chalford, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 219
Piece: 2999
Folio: 24
Page Number: 42

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Couldry 63 c1808 Chalford, Gloucestershire, England. Boatman
Caroline Couldry 56 wife c1815 Chalford, Gloucestershire, England
Charles Carter 17 nephew c1854 Wooton, Gloucestershire, England

Given the Tipton ref in AnnCardiff's 1881, could these be Joseph's parents?:

Name: Charles Cauldry
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Cauldry
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 2044
Folio: 102
Page Number: 39

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Cauldry 52 c1809 Wiltshire, England occ hard to read, poss boatman.
Caroline Cauldry 46 c1815 Gloucestershire, England
Walter Cauldry 4 grandson Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Cauldry 3 granddaughter Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Allen Wyatt 60 lodger Gloucestershire, England
Ann Wyatt 44 lodger Gloucestershire, England

1881

Joseph COULDREY Head M Male 46 Tipton, Stafford, England Boat Labourer (Barge)
Elizebeth COULDREY Wife M Female 43 Oldbury, Worcester, England
Charles COULDREY Widr M Male 74 Gloucester, England No Occupation
George COULDREY Son Male 18 Oldbury, Worcester, England Boat Labourer (Barge)
Walter COULDREY Son Male 13 Walsall Boat Labourer (Barge)
Earnest COULDREY Son Male 12 Todmorden Scholar
John Thomas COULDREY Son Male 9 Dudley Port Scholar
Susanah COULDREY Daur Female 6 Walsall Scholar
Harriet COULDREY Daur Female 2 Walsall Scholar
Benjamin ROBERTS Lodger M Male 24 Rowley, Worcester, England Labourer In Iron Works
Eliza ROBERTS Wife M Female 22 Stoke On Trent, Stafford, England Bridle Sticher


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Source Information:
Dwelling Upper Fredrick St 43
Census Place Walsall Foreign, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341676
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2823 / 82
Page Number 37

Husband
JOSEPH COULDREY Pedigree
:
Marriage: 24 DEC 1855 Christ Church, West Bromwich, Stafford,
Father: CHARLIE COULDREY Family
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Wife
ELIZABETH COMMANDER Pedigree
:
Marriage: 24 DEC 1855 Christ Church, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

Father: JOHN

Joseph Couldrey Compact Disc #142 Pin #4100092 Pedigree
Sex: M
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Event(s)
Birth: abt 1835

Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elizabeth Commander Disc #142 Pin #4099867
Marriage:
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Personal Information
Residence: 1861
Oldbury, Staffordshire, England
Residence: 1881
Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England

well while we're here :-D :-D :-D

name: Joseph Couldrey
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 26
relationship to head of household: Son In Law
birthplace: Gloucester, Gloucestershire
record type: Household
registration district: West Bromwich
sub-district: 2 Oldbury
ecclesiastical parish: Oldbury
civil parish: Oldbury
county: Staffordshire

Alan.....if you would like to post a thread of your own regarding the Couldrey's, we will be able to help you.

The father of Joseph was indeed....Charles Couldrey.


I dont have the subs to view the record..

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish

Name: Joseph Couldrey
Spouse: Elizabeth Commander
Father: Charles Couldrey

Just to let you know this is an old thread...if the person is still with GR you could click on the name and send a private message.

Regards Vera

Hello Geoffrey, I am trying to find details of Joseph Couldrey b1834 or 35 in the Stroud area .I am unable to find anything before 1855 when he married Elizabeth Commander in the midlands. The 1881 cencus tells me that there was a Charles Couldrey { b1807 in Gloucestershire} living with Joseph and his family . Could this be Josephs father? Hope you can be of help. Regards Alan Couldrey