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ErikaH
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18 Jan 2026 12:09 |
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John Leslie's baptism is shown above.....PROOF of his parentage. Didn’t you take note of it????
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Susan
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18 Jan 2026 12:02 |
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Thanks for all your answers. Yes I found the 1921 Donald ( JohnHenry on original !) The originals are very clear .I am sure you are right in saying John L must have been another Wells/Holloway family as John L was not there. .John Henry died in 1942 in hospital in Dollis Hill. Medical reports in 1918 show heart damage then. Thanks for Stephen E death which I had not found. Never knew that my Grandad had a brother and sister before looking at family history! Susan <3
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 14:01 |
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1921 Census Of England & Wales 27, Rampayne Street, St George's Hanover Square & St Margaret and St John, London & Middlesex, England
Walter Holloway Head Male 1871 50 London, London, England Warehouseman Wholesale Food William Sons Ltd Mary Holloway Wife Female 1869 52 Leverington, Cambridgeshire, England Home Duties - Harry L Holloway Son Male 1906 15 London, London, England Telegraph Messenger Post Master General G P O Doris Holloway Daughter Female 1893 28 London, London, England Home Duties - *******************WIDOW Jack Wells Grandson Male 1918 3 London, London, England -
ANOTHER mess-up by FMP transcribers.........Doris's surname is WELLS,as clear as day
1939 Register 6 Bessborough Street, Pimlico, City Of Westminster, City of Westminster, London, England
First name(s) Doris M County London Last name(s) Wells Country England Birth date 03 Apr 1893 E. D. letter code AYAJ Birth day 3 Schedule 251 Birth month 4 Schedule sub number 1 Birth year 1893 Archive reference RG101/0622A/017/4 Sex Female Piece number 0622A Marital status Widowed Item number 17 Occupation Retired
Deaths Sep 1961 (>99%) WELLS Doris M 68 Hammersmith 5c 649
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:36 |
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I don't trust the transcribers of 1921......................so many glaring errors, one has to wonder what they were on ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:35 |
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1939 Register 2 Rydal Gardens Rydal Gardens, Kingston Upon Thames, Maldon and Coombe M.B., Surrey, England
George F Andrews 22 Dec 1900 Male Directing Manager Insurance Married 217 1 Emily M Andrews 25 Apr 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 217 2 Doris I Andrews 19 Jul 1919 Female Sales Woman Gowns Single 217 3 Charles F Harrison 14 Sep 1872 Male Retired Master Mariner Married 217 4 ****John L Wells 02 Dec 1917 Male Collector Insurance Single 217 5 Doris Joan Stephen (Andrews) 19 Jul 1919 Female Saleswoman Gowns Single 217 3
First name(s) John Leslie Register number A60B Last name Wells Entry number 226 Sex Male Date of registration mm/yy 0101 Birth day 2 Birth month 12 Birth year 1917 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Death quarter 1 Death year 2001 District Swindon Collections from Great Britain, England District number 7961A
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greyghost
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16 Jan 2026 13:34 |
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EDIT added to my post. Yes the image shows CLEARLY that the name is John Henry. Thank you ErikaH
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:28 |
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IMAGE of 1921 is CLEARLY John Henry for the head of household. I always find it pays to verify ;-) ;-)
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greyghost
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16 Jan 2026 13:28 |
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The marriage - John Henry Wells London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1940 Name John Henry Wells Gender Male Marriage Age 23 Record Type Marriage Birth Date abt 1891 Marriage Date 8 Aug 1914 Marriage Place Saint Saviour, Paddington: Warwick Avenue, Westminster, England Father James Ernest Wells Spouse Jane Holloway Register Type Parish Register
From original - John - Bachelor, a Tailor of 74 Lisson Grove, Marylebone Jane - age 26 spinster a Dressmaker of 77b Warwick Avenue, d/o Edward Holloway, Retired Both signed Witnesses - James Ernest Wells and Edward Holloway
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:24 |
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YOUR family
Name Iris Myrtle Wells Baptism Age 1 Record Type Baptism Birth Date 15 Apr 1919 Baptism Date 25 Apr 1920 Baptism Place St John the Baptist, Eltham: Eltham High Street, Greenwich, Middlesex, England Father John Henry Wells.........TAILOR Mother Jane Wells
Name Stephen Eric Wells Death Age 74 Birth Date 6 Mar 1920 Registration Date May 1994 Registration District Harrow Inferred County Greater London Register Number 83B District and Subdistrict 2321 Entry Number 17
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greyghost
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16 Jan 2026 13:24 |
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Marriage Banns - from original they were read on 12/19/26 July at Christ Church, St Marylebone, Cosway Street
John Henry Wells London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1940 Name John Henry Wells Gender Male Record Type Marriage Banns (Marriage Bann) Marriage Banns Date 1914 Marriage Banns Place Christ Church, Saint Marylebone: Cosway Street, Westminster, England Spouse Jane Holloway Register Type Parish Register
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:21 |
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The child's baptism.............................
Name John Leslie Wells Age 0 Birth Date 2 Dec 1917 Baptism Date 27 Jan 1918 Baptism Place St John the Evangelist, Wilton Road, London, Westminster, England Parish as it Appears St Peter's Church, Eaton Square Father John Wells Mother Doris Wells
HIS parents Name John Wells Gender Male Marriage Age 28 Birth Date abt 1889 Marriage Date 20 Feb 1917 Marriage Place St Peter, Eaton Square, Pimlico, London, Westminster, England Father Phoenix Wells Spouse Doris Maud Holloway Father Walter Russell Holloway
Name John Wells Gender Male Age 26 Birth Year abt 1888 [abt 1888] Birth Place Gerringong, New South Wales Dossier Year Range 1914-1920 Enlistment Place Melbourne, Victoria Service Number 2186 Spouse Doris Maud Wells Next of Kin Doris Maud WELLS
Sergeant JOHN WELLS Service Number: 2186 Regiment & Unit/Ship Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 6th Bn. Died 04 October 1917 Age 28 years Buried or commemorated at YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL Panel 7. Belgium Country of Service Australian Additional Info Son of Phoenix and H. Wells; husband of Mrs. D. M. Wells, of 27, Rampayne St., Westminster, London, England. Native of Kiama, New South Wales.
Name John Wells Birth Date 1887 Birth Place New South Wales Registration Year 1887 Registration Place Broughton Creek, New South Wales, Australia Father Phoenix Wells Mother Hannah Wells Registration Number 34606
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greyghost
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16 Jan 2026 13:17 |
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The only Iris and Stephen born post the marriage - .
also on the same reference number as Stephen is a Hedley A Wells
Births Jun 1919 (>99%) Wells Iris M Holloway Hendon 3a 441 99%)
Births Jun 1929 Wells Hedley A Holloway Lewisham 1d 2302 Wells Stephen E Holloway Lewisham 1d 2302 99%)
Hedley's death registered same quarter as the birth
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Jun 1920 (>99%) WELLS Hedley A 0 Woolwich 1d 1165
This would appear to be the family in 1921 with Jane, Iris and Stephen BUT husband/Father is shown as Donald on transcript not John Henry. EDIT - As pointed out by ErikaH (later post) original shows the name as John Henry
Stephen Eric Wells in 1921 1921 Census Of England & Wales 106, Dairsie Road, Eltham, London & Kent, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Donald Wells Head Male 1891 30 Marylebone, London, England Cutter (Tailors) Gents Mortuers Ltd Jane Wells Wife Female 1888 33 Kilburn, London, England Home Duties - Iris Myrtle Wells Daughter Female 1919 2 Middlesex, England - - Stephen Eric Wells Son Male 1920 1 Eltham, Kent, England - -
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:16 |
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For FULL info
WELLS, JOHN LESLIE HOLLOWAY GRO Reference: 1918 M Quarter in ST. GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 504
The marriage to which I referred...............
Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%) Holloway Doris M Wells St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 845 Wells John Holloway St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 845
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greyghost
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16 Jan 2026 13:06 |
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For our info
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Holloway Jane Wells Paddington 1a 134 Wells John H Holloway Paddington 1a 134
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 13:00 |
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Unless you have birth cert, not sure you can say who the parents of John L were. He was registered in St Geo H Sq district and there was a Wells-Holloway marriage in the same district in 1917
You may have jumped to an erroneous conclusion - easily done ;-) ;-)
Where were your relatives in 1921?
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ErikaH
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16 Jan 2026 12:55 |
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Unlikely that anyone will ‘know’ about them. Have you looked in ‘search all member trees’ for possible connections?
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Susan
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16 Jan 2026 12:34 |
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John L was born to these parents in 1918. He does not appear on 1921 census with John H and Jane and their 2 other children Iris and Stephen . Can't find a death for the baby.Does anyone know of this family. John H was my great uncle. Susan
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