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Another waste of time................

Sent another PM yesterday....OPENED. No reaction!!

Sent PM advising Douglas of the need to return to look at responses to his request. His only reply was a shared tree and request to view mine :-S :-S :-S

Purely for interest........................

PROBERT, JOHN (MMN) ROGERS
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in OSWESTRY Volume 18 Page 150

First name(s) Samuel
Country England
Last name Ward
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Sex Male
Father's last name Ward
Baptism year 1824
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Baptism date 04 Jan 1824
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Residence Kinnerley, Shropshire, England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Kinnerley
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Shropshire

First name(s) Samuel
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Last name Ward
Spouse's last name Rogers
Name note -
Spouse's age -
Marriage year 1822
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Marriage date 09 Apr 1822
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Marriage place Kinnerley
Subcategory Parish Marriages
County Shropshire

No help there, as Ann was Charlotte's relation................

First name(s) John
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1804
Register type Baptism
Birth date 11 Aug 1804
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1804
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 19 Aug 1804
Page 30
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagley

First name(s) Catherine
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1787
Register type Baptism
Birth date 16 Dec 1787
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1787
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 23 Dec 1787
Page 7
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagley

First name(s) Edward
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1789
Register type Baptism
Birth date 02 May 1789
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1789
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 30 May 1789
Page 9
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagly

First name(s) Elizabeth
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1798
Register type Baptism
Birth date 27 Jun 1798
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1798
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 22 Jul 1798
Page 22
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagley

First name(s) Mary
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1791
Register type Baptism
Birth date 12 Jul 1791
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1791
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 31 Jul 1791
Page 12
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagly

Rebekah
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1810
Register type Baptism
Birth date 02 Jan 1810
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1810
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 25 Feb 1810
Page 36
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagley

First name(s) William
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1793
Register type Baptism
Birth date 30 Jan 1793
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1793
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 03 Mar 1793
Page 15
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edward
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagley

First name(s) Charlotte
Residence -
Last name Rogers
County Shropshire
Birth year 1807
Register type Baptism
Birth date 29 Apr 1807
Register date range 1783-1812
Baptism year 1807
Archive reference P151/A/2/1
Baptism date 02 Aug 1807
Page 34
Denomination Anglican
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Place Kinnerley
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edwd
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Mary Bagley
Collections from Great Britain, England
Mother's last name -

According to the Kinnerley burial record of the Thomas buried on 12th June 1849, his abode at the time was Dovaston (part of the Parish of Kinnerley)

5 Baptisms in Kinnerley to a Thomas and Charlotte Probert - first 4 Thomas shown as a Farmer
Thomas 10.5.1835, abode at time - Edgerley
Mary 8.12.1838, abode Edgerley
John 17.7.1842, abode Edgerley
William - 2.3.1845, abode Dovaston
Samuel - 12.5.1848, abode Dovaston - Father recorded as a Labourer

Not seeing a baptism for Charlotte

There is the burial in Kinnerley of a
Mary Probert - 13.1.1839 aged 5 weeks - of Edgerley

John aged 8 is in Oswestry as a Cow Boy. He is shown as Nephew to Edward Parry a Farmer born West Felton, Shropshire aged 43.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Wood, Oswestry, Shropshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Parry Head Married Male 43 1808 Farmer (52) acres West Felton, Shropshire, England
Ann Parry Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Kinnerley, Shropshire, England
Edward Parry Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Farmers son Kinnerley, Shropshire, England
Samuel Ward Step son Unmarried Male 27 1824 Land propriator Kinnerley, Shropshire, England
Ann Ward Step daughter Unmarried Female 26 1825 Land propriator Kinnerley, Shropshire, England
John Probert Nephew Unmarried Male 8 1843 Cow boy Kinnerley, Shropshire, England
Ann Jones Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 House serv Oswestry, Shropshire, England

The 1849 death is of a man who was buried in Kinnerley on 12th June

One of the witnesses to his marriage was a John Probert.

Thomas was ‘of this Parish’ when he married in Kinnerley, but that means ONLY that he was living there at the time.

They married by Licence on 31st December 1832

According to the 1841 census, Thomas wasn't born in Shropshire. He was a Farmer

Recorded as aged 30 he could have been aged 30-34, so born 1807-1811 as ages over 15 were meant to be rounded down to the nearest 5. Death registration suggests 1805/6.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Edgerley, Kinnerley, Oswestry, Shropshire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Probert Male 30 1811 -
Charlotte Probert Female 30 1811 Shropshire, England
Thomas Probert Male 7 1834 Shropshire, England
Charlotte Probert Female 4 1837 Shropshire, England
Mary Jones Female 15 1826 Shropshire, England

Is this the death you refer to - 1849. Oswestry RD covers Kinnerley

If it is the one you refer to then either he wasn't born 1810 or his age at death is wrong.

Name: Age at Death (in years):
PROBERT, THOMAS 43
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in OSWESTRY Volume 18 Page 124

Always annoying when they due before the 1851 census.

You need to find his baptism. Where have you been looking?

You say he died in 1847…….there doesn’t appear to be any record online

Please give full details

Hi I am trying to find out the parents names of Thomas Probert born in Shropshire 1810, I know he was married to Charlotte Rogers and they had four children and they lived in Kinnerley Shropshire. I also know who his children married. But have come a bit stuck trying to to find his parents names and if he had any siblings any help would be most welcome kind regards Doug