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William Leach / Jemima grant son John Leach

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2024 09:10

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, but -
we haven't actually been able to find anything definite about William or Jemima.

The "information" about William and Jemima is only from someone's tree on Ancestry, and not necessarily correct.

The tree "owner" has not submitted any documentary proof of the details.
We can't find any actual records of them online, either.

Without documentary proof, you can't be entirely sure that the details are correct.

John's death record (1900) is an actual record, so is correct - but it doesn't tell you anything about William and Jemima other than that they were John's parents, which you knew already.

The record about the Will and executors of a William Leech in 1856 is an actual record, from the Web: Ireland, Calendar of Wills and Administrations, 1858-1920 - but isn't necessarily for the same William who married Jemima.

It says he's a farmer, "late of Ardmore, East County Cavan", but Jemima's not mentioned in that record, and we can't see the actual Will online to know what it said.
That William who died in 1856 had been married to Mary Dermott, who had previously been married to Phil Dermott, so he's probably not the William who married Jemima, unless perhaps Jemima died and he remarried.

"Letters of administration were granted . . . . . . . . . to Mary Dermott (wife of Phil Dermott) . . . . the Relict" - ie - the widow.

Can't find any record of a marriage between William Leech (or other spelling) and Mary Dermott - or Jemima Grant, for that matter.


The tree owner (Arthur J Hutley) obviously doesn't know any facts about Jemima.
He has guessed that her birthplace was Ardmore, and has also guessed at a wide range of years for her birth.



I don't know where the notion that John's father William was from Ardmore, Knockbride, came from - unless just from that Will record.
Knockbride is about 90 miles from John's birthplace of Londonderry, as stated in John's burial record.
I can't find a birth record to match that.

aaron

aaron Report 14 Feb 2024 04:04

Hi Thank you for the information on William and Jemima I could not seem to find them , on Ancestry or my heritage, especially Jemima
Thanks Aaron

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2024 11:28

As Aaron didn't return to this thread, and has started a new one today, I've PM'd to let him know there are replies on both threads - just in case he thinks GR will notify him of replies.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1402546

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2023 11:40

John Leetch
Marriage Date 1852
Marriage Place Sofala, New South Wales
Registration Date 1852
Registration Place Sofala, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse
Amelia Jeffries
Volume Number V C

John Leetch in 1852
New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
Sofala, New South Wales, Australia
Transcript of John's record
First name(s) John
Spouse's last name Jeffries
Last name Leetch
Registration number -
Denomination Church Of England
Volume reference V1852601 38C
Marriage year 1852
Cross reference -
Registration year 1852
Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
Registration district Sofala
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
State New South Wales
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Country Australia
Collections from Australasia, Australia
Spouse's first name(s) Amelia


Name John Leech
Gender Male
Birth Date 1833
Birth Place County Londonderry, Northern Ireland
Death Date 10 Nov 1900
Death Place Dunwich, Redland City, Queensland, Australia
Cemetery Dunwich Benevolent Asylum Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Dunwich, Redland City, Queensland, Australia
Has Bio? Y
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/224463032/john-leech

Deceased SurnameLeech
Deceased ForenameWilliam
Primary Beneficiary/ExecutorMary Dermott
Sec. Beneficiary/ExecutorPhil Dermott
Date of Death27 Aug 1856
County of DeathCavan

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2023 11:30

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
View record
Record details
Name John Leech
Death Date 10 Nov 1900
Death Place Queensland
Registration Date 1900
Registration Place Australia
Father William Leech
Mother Jemima Grant
Registration Number 003226
Page number 14956

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2023 11:28

from a tree on ancestry
needs checking

john
Birth
abt 1832 • County Londonderry, Northern Ireland

184715
Residence
20 January 1847 • Lancashire, England, United Kingdom

185220
Marriage
04 JUN 1852 • Sofala, New South Wales, Australia
Amelia Jeffries

(1838–1897)

185220
Marriage
1852 • Sofala, New South Wales

185422
Birth of son Samuel John Litch(1854–1893)
9 Sep 1854 • New South Wales

185523
Birth of son William Leach(1855–1928)
04 Oct 1855 • Wide Bay, Maryborough, Queensland, Australia

185624
Death of father William Leech(1808–1856)
27 Aug 1856 • Ardmore, Knockbride, Cavan, Ireland

185725
Birth of son James Leetch(1857–1862)
1857 • Wide Bay, New South Wales, Australia

185927
Birth of daughter Elizabeth Leitch(1859–1932)
19 Jul 1859 • Maryborough, Queensland, Australia

186230
Death of son James Leetch(1857–1862)
1862

189361
Death of son Samuel John Litch(1854–1893)
10 Jan 1893 • Mareeba Shire, Queensland, Australia

189765
Death of wife Amelia Jeffries(1838–1897)
05 Dec 1897 • Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia

190068
Death
10 Nov 1900 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

father william
Birth
1808 • Ardmore, Knockbride, Carvan, Ireland

183224
Birth of son John Leech(1832–1900)
abt 1832 • County Londonderry, Northern Ireland

185648
Death
27 Aug 1856 • Ardmore, Knockbride, Cavan, Ireland


mother jemima
irth
1780-1830 • Ardmore, Knockbride, Cavan, Ireland

183252
Birth of son John Leech(1832–1900)
abt 1832 • County Londonderry, Northern Ireland

185676
Death of husband William Leech(1808–1856)
27 Aug 1856 • Ardmore, Knockbride, Cavan, Ireland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Nov 2023 10:49

Did John’s parents, William and Jemima, also emigrate?

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Nov 2023 10:39

Where have you looked?

Are you asking for hep in finding out about his time in Ireland or Australia?

Was William before his time or was Jemima Grant his wife and are you looking for her too?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Nov 2023 07:57

It’s not an uncommon name so maybe !

John Leach
in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name John Leach
Nationality English
Arrival Age 25
Birth Date abt 1828
Departure Place Liverpool
Arrival Date Aug 1853
Arrival Place Hobsons Bay, Australia
Ship Carntyne


But there are others !

How have you got back to him ?

aaron

aaron Report 30 Nov 2023 05:26

Hi Iam looking for
William Leach / Jemima grant, son John Leach John was born about 1830 in londonderry ireland , John came to Australia about 1850?
that is all I know so far any information would be helpfull
Thanks Aaron
Australia