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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2026 15:42 |
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First name(s) Florence Mary Institution name Workhouse Meddon Street Bideford Last name Young Institution description Workhouse, Meddon Street, Bideford Sex Female Parish Bideford Birth year 1898 Registration district Bideford Census date 19 June 1921 Registration district number 286 Age in years 23 Sub-district Bideford Age in months 6 Sub-district number 1 Age as transcribed 23 y 6 m Enumeration district number 9 Relationship to head Officer County Devon Marital status Single Country England Birth place Bideford, Devon, England Parliamentary borough or division Devonshire PC, Barnstaple Div. Birth town Bideford Archive The National Archives Birth county Devon Archive series RG 15 Birth country England Piece number 10857 Birth place as transcribed Devon, Bideford Schedule number 47 Occupation Children Caretaker Page 1 Occupation code 805 District reference RD 286 RS 1 ED 9 Occupation code with suffix 805/7 Schedule type code III Employer Bideford Board Of Guardians Schedule type Institution, multiple page, 70+ entries Employer code 721 Other household member's first name(s) - Place of work At Institution Other household member's last name - Language used to complete form English Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales Person making return Mr W H Andrew Category Census, land & surveys House name The Whitehouse Subcategory Census Street Meddon Street Collections from Great Britain, England Address The Whitehouse Meddon Street
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2026 15:36 |
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James Joseph in 1921 was a Hotel 'Boots'...... (the man suggested by AG above)……not a sailor of any sort
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25 Feb 2026 15:29 |
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1921 Census Of England & Wales 12, Torridge Street, Bideford, Devon, England Archibald William Lock Head Male 1891 30 Dorset, England Postman G P O Elizabeth Lock Wife Female 1891 29 Bideford, Devon, England Collar Ironer Strand Collar Works, Bideford Leslie Thomas Lock Son Male 1910 11 Bideford, Devon, England - - Winifred May Lock Daughter Female 1914 7 Devon, England - - Archibald William Lock Son Male 1920 1 Bideford, Devon, England - - Violet Doreen Young Niece Female 1920 - Carlisle Scotland
Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%) Lock Archibald W Young Bideford 5b 782 Young Elizabeth Lock Bideford 5b 782
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25 Feb 2026 15:27 |
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1939 Register 36 Lensy Carner, Bideford, Bideford M.B., Devon, England
Percy Powe 29 Sep 1897 Male General Labourer Married 300 1 Florence M Powe 15 Dec 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 300 2 Leslie L Powe 30 Jun 1931 Male At School Single 300 3 The record for this person is officially closed. James Young 01 Jun 1922 Male Hotel Waiter Single 300 5
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2026 15:19 |
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Your chances of identifying the father(s) of illegitimate children born over a century ago are pretty slim.
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Diane
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25 Feb 2026 15:13 |
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This is my moms brother, he was born in 1922. Its their father I was looking for. Its appears his son was given his name George James or James George Middleton. Young being my Nans maiden name. I have I think a photo of him, incase anyone might recognise him. Sorry so long in replying Diane :-)
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20 Aug 2022 10:52 |
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Birth registration?
YOUNG, GEORGE JAMES MIDDLETON - GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in BIDEFORD Volume 05B Page 718
So perhaps George James rather than James George?
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19 Aug 2022 22:19 |
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Following up on that - just in case:
Birth:
MIDDLETON, JAMES JOSEPH mmn HARMAN GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 657
James Middleton in the 1911 England Census Name: James Middleton Age in 1911: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Poplar, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham Country: England Street Address: 22 Liddon Road, Plaistow, Essex Occupation: School Registration District Number: 188 Sub-registration District: Plaistow ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Piece: 9450 Household Members: Name Age James J Middleton 61 - pensioned dock labourer Mary Middleton 49 George Middleton 12 James Middleton 10 Mabel Leslie 4/12
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MIDDLETON, GEORGE LIONEL mmn HARMAN GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 652
???? James Joseph Middleton in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937 Name: James Joseph Middleton Gender: Male Marriage Age: 34 Birth Date: abt 1900 Marriage Date: 15 Jul 1934 Marriage Place: Little Ilford, St Mary the Virgin, Essex, England Father: James Joseph Middleton Spouse: Daisy Mabel Middleton
James J Middleton in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: James J Middleton Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 5 Apr 1900 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 212 Residence Place: East Ham, Essex, England Occupation: Tram Driver Line Number: 41 Schedule Number: 196 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: Cacl Borough: East Ham Registration district: 188a-1 Inferred Spouse: Daisy M Middleton Household Members Age James J Middleton 39 Daisy M Middleton 49
There are lots of WW1 service records for men named James Middleton - haven't worked through them all ! And there will be lots of others whose records haven't survived. Of course, he may not have joined up until after the end of the war. Or he may have been in the Merchant Navy - you don't say what sort of sailor he was.
Brother George:
George Lionel Middleton in the UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: George Lionel Middleton Gender: Male Enlistment Age: 18 Birth Date: abt 1898 Document Date: 1916 Residence Place: 22 Lidd?? Plaist?? [22 Liddon Road, Plaistow ] Military Date: 1916 Relationship to Soldier: Self (Head) Regimental Number: 34422 Other Regimental Numbers: 341122 Regiment Name: Royal Engineers Number of Images: 40 Form Title: Short Service Attestation Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier George Lionel Middleton Self (Head) NOK: Mary Benns Mother
Mother's second marriage:
Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%) Benns Edward Middleton W.Ham 4a 516 Middleton Mary Benns W.Ham 4a 516
James Joseph Middleton in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: James Joseph Middleton Death Age: 75 Birth Date: 5 Apr 1900 Registration Date: Jul 1975[Aug 1975] [Sep 1975] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Southend on Sea Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 2118
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ArgyllGran
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19 Aug 2022 22:02 |
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This is the only possible-sounding Middleton in Bideford in 1921;
James Joseph Middleton 1900 Birthplace: London, England Bideford Bideford Devon
NOTE: I am NOT saying he's your grandfather - just that he might be worth investigating further.
You'd have to pay to see the full details (occupation, crucially).
He's with Albert Wooldridge Lister 1884, Minnie Beatrice Lister 1883 (nee Hookham) , Betty Wooldridge Lister 1909, Derek Wooldridge Lister 1913, Frederick Wooldridge Lister 1920, and 11 others.
I think he's just a lodger or visitor . There's no obvious family relationship with the Listers or Hookhams - but I don't know who the other 11 people are. Albert (born Staffordshire) and Minnie (born Kings Norton area) married in Kings Norton RD in 1906, were in South Africa (Transvaal) around 1909 when Betty was born, and were in Birmingham in 1911, when Albert was manager of a manufacturing stationer's business. In 1920, at Frederick's baptism, Albert was a company director and they were living at 5 Park Mansions, Chapel Park Road, St Leonards-on-Sea, Hastings.
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ErikaH
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19 Aug 2022 19:42 |
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I take it that you mean that the photograph dates from 1919-22?
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ErikaH
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19 Aug 2022 19:16 |
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James George’s death registration shows his DoB to have been 1/6/1922
Birth registered as George J M**********************************************************
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ErikaH
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19 Aug 2022 18:59 |
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If your grandmother was Florence Mary, the free search suggests she was alone in 1921
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ErikaH
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19 Aug 2022 18:52 |
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No birth on freebmd for James Young in Bideford
What was your grandmother’s name?
And her daughter’s forename? Was it Mabel?
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19 Aug 2022 18:45 |
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Diane
It is extremely unlikely that anyone connected would actually find your post. Your dates seem a bit off, unless the 1920 ish sailor is the younger man.
Have a look at Search/ search all members trees to see if anyone has the in their tree.
Use freebmd to find all their births and possible marriages. Are they on the 1939 register?
Have a free search on the 1921 census on Find My Past, but you will have too pay for downloads.
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Diane
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19 Aug 2022 18:39 |
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A salior, 1919 - 1922 ish in Bidefortd North Devon or maybe in Carlisle. I have a photo I believe he is my Grandfather, his son had the name James George Middleton Young, the Young is my Grandmothers maiden name. Can anyone recognise this information. My grandmother was born 1898 in Bideford North Devon. She had two children a girl born 1920 in Cartlisle, and a son born in Bideford, both in the workhouses one in Carlisle 1920, and 1922 Bideford . I believe they had the same father.
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