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Etherington and Cozens

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Steven

Steven Report 21 May 2021 01:05

Hi,

Could anyone help me find more information on Mary Jane Edith Cozens Married to Francis Etherington, records show they married in 1902 , mother and father of Edith Maud Eleanor Etherington born 1908 in Guildford (she married James Peters).

As the Francis I found who had a daughter Edith was married to a Kate in 1903 so unsure if this is the same Francis or....i think they got the name wrong in the 1911 census...

Any info would be greatly appreciated,

Sarah

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2021 06:39


Name: Mary Jane Edith Cozens
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1870
Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1902
Marriage Place: Worplesdon, St Mary, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon
Search Photos: Search for 'Worplesdon, St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: John Thomas Cozens
Spouse: Frances Etherington

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2021 06:43

1911 census

She was being called Kate

Francis Etherington
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Worplesdon, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Guildford
Search Photos: Search for 'Guildford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Elm Grove, Stoughton Road, Guildford
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1903
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration District Number: 33
Sub-registration District: Guildford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 3080
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Etherington 40
Kate Etherington 40
Lawrance Etherington 12
Francis Etherington 5
George Etherington 4
Edith Etherington 3
Lilian May Etherington 1


Name: Lilian May Etherington
Baptism Date: 1 May 1910
Baptism Place: Burpham, St Luke, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon
Search Photos: Search for 'Burpham, St Luke' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Francis Etherington
Mother: Mary June Edith Etherington



Name: Francis Etherington
Baptism Age: 0
Birth Date: 18 May 1905
Baptism Date: 10 Sep 1905
Baptism Place: Burpham, St Luke, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon
Search Photos: Search for 'Burpham, St Luke' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Francis Etherington
Mother: Mary Jane Edith Etherington

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2021 08:26

Can’t find any births for Lawrence under etherington or cozens


Death

Deaths Mar 1932
Etherington Mary J E 60 Guildford 2a 211

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2021 08:31

It was Francis who filled in the 1911 census form - so "Kate" isn't a mistake.
Kate must just have been what Mary was known as in the family.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2021 09:21

Perhaps this is Mary ???
BUT father is not a station-master as stated at marriage, and apparently without the middle name Thomas in any record, although certainly deceased by 1902.

Perhaps a flight of fancy, along with taking a couple of years off her age ???


COZENS, MARY JANE EDITH mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in KINGS LYNN Volume 04B Page 367


Mary Jane Ada Cozens
in the Norfolk, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919
Name: Mary Jane Ada Cozens
Baptism Age: 0
Birth Date: Abt 1868
Baptism Date: 13 Mar 1868
Baptism Place: South Lynn All Saints, Norfolk, England
Father: John Cozens
Mother: Harriet Cozens


John Cozens
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: John Cozens
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Date: 1828
Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1861
Marriage Place: St. Margaret'S, Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father: William Cozens
Spouse: Harriett Cox


Mary A Couzens
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Mary A Couzens
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Kings Lynn Norfolk England
Civil parish: All Saints
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: King
Sub-registration district: Kings Lynn South
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 1865
Folio: 90
Page number: 2
Household Members Age Relationship
John Couzens 46 Head - lighterman
Hannah A Couzens 35 Wife
John Couzens 8 Son
Mary A Couzens 3 Daughter
George Couzens 6/12 Son


Mary Cozens
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Cozens
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: John Cozens
Mother: Harriet Cozens
Gender: Female
Where born: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: South Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: Goat Yard
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: King'S Lynn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2000
Folio: 93
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cozens 56 - porter
Harriet Cozens 45
John Cozens 20
Mary Cozens 12
George Cozens 10
Harriet Cozens 7


Mother died 1890:

Harriet Ann Cozens
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harriet Ann Cozens
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 53
Registration District: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 205


John Cozens
in the 1891 England Census
Name: John Cozens [ widower, retired labourer ]
Gender: Male
Age: 65
Relationship: Inmate
Birth Year: 1826
Birth Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: South Lynn
Ecclesiastical parish: South Lynn All Saints
Residence Place: South Lynn, Norfolk, England
Registration District: King
Sub registration district: King
ED, Institution or Vessel: Kings Lynn Union Workhouse
Neighbors:
Piece: 1570
Folio: 139


John Cozens
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Cozens
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 68
Registration District: Freebridge Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 217


So far, I don't see Mary in 1891.
Sister Harriett is with brother George and their Cox grandparents.
Brother John died in 1890.

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 May 2021 11:55

Mary Jane Edith
Last name Cozens
Age 32
Marital status Spinster
Birth year 1870
Marriage year 1902
Marriage date 06 Dec 1902
Marriage place Worplesdon, St Mary
Father's first name(s) John Thomas
Father's last name Cozens
Father occupation Station Master, Deceased ----------------
Spouse's first name(s) Frances
Spouse's last name Etherington
Spouse's age 32
Spouse's birth year 1870
Spouse's occupation Labourer
Spouse's condition Bachelor
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer, Deceased
First witness Charles James Nunn
Second witness Lucy Etherington
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference WOR/2/5
Register type Marriages
Year range 1893-1917

a little bit more detail

Mary Jane Edith
Last name Etherington
Birth year 1872
Burial year 1932
Age at death 60
Burial date 13 Feb 1932
Place Burpham, St Luke
Residence Rose Cottage Jacob's Wells Worplesdon
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference 7848/1/7
Register type Burials
Year range 1859-1997
Page 35
Record set Surrey Burials

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 May 2021 12:00

Frank
Last name Etherington
Birth year 1870
Birth date 12 Jul 1870
Event year 1878
School name St Mary's Church Of England (Later Perry Hill Board/council) School, Worplesdon
Town Worplesdon
County Surrey
Country England
Parent's name(s) William Etherington
Book type Admissions
Archive
Surrey History Centre
Archive reference CC42/2/1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2021 12:04

Re her father's supposed middle name Thomas -

there is no death of a John Thomas Cozens (or variation of spelling) of a likely age, anywhere in England/Wales, 1870-1902. .

The only John Thomas Cozens (or other spelling) I can see in the Kings Lynn area is one born in 1859 - so highly unlikely to be Mary's father, as he was only 11 in 1870.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2021 13:07

Francis in 1901

George Carter Head Married Male 33 1868 General labourer Shadwell, Middlesex, England
Ellen Carter Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Worplesdon, Surrey, England
Lillian May Carter Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Worplesdon, Surrey, England
Violet Mabel Carter Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Worplesdon, Surrey, England
Francis Etherington Boarder Single Male 30 1871 General labourer Worplesdon, Surrey, England

In 1911 'Kate' says she's been married fo 8 years and had 5 children - however, one of the five is presumably Lawrence who definitely wasn't born during the marriage

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2021 14:17

Trying to 'pin down' Lawrence.............................probably way off the mark, but........................

Name: Lawrence Nunn
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Charles Nunn
Mother: Mary Nunn
Birth Place: Worplesdon, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Worplesdon
Ecclesiastical parish: Burpham and Worplesdon St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration District: Guildford
Sub-registration District: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 598
Folio: 42
Page Number: 11
Household Schedule Number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno Etherington 75
Charles Nunn 45
Mary Nunn 43
Agnes Mary Nunn 5
Lawrence Nunn 2

Name: Mary Ann Elizabeth Etherington
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 01 Dec 1877
Marriage Place: Stoke Next Guildford,Surrey,England
Father: John Etherington
Spouse: Charles James Nunn

NUNN, AGNES MARY ETHERINGTON
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in GUILDFORD Volume 02A Page 61

Name: Agnes Mary Nunn
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1895
Baptism Place: Burpham, St Luke, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon
Father: Charles James Nunn
Mother: Mary Ann Elizabeth Nunn

Can't see a birth for the boy

Name: Agnes Mary Nunn
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1894
Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1915
Marriage Place: Woking, St Paul, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Woking, Christ Church
Father: Charles James Nunn
Spouse: John William Long

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 May 2021 14:39

the above mary
Mary Ann Elizabeth
Last name Etherington
Age 19
Marital status Spinster
Birth year 1858 --------------
Marriage year 1877
Marriage date 01 Dec 1877
Marriage place Stoke Next Guildford, St John the Evangelist
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Etherington
Father occupation Labourer
Spouse's first name(s) Charles James
Spouse's last name Nunn
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's birth year 1852
Spouse's occupation Private In 2nd Queens
Spouse's condition Bachelor
Spouse's father's occupation Deceased
First witness George Hetherington
Second witness Margarett Gaff
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference STK/2/6
Register type Marriages
Year range 1867-1883

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 May 2021 14:49

Edith Maude Eleanor
Last name Etherington
Baptism year 1908
Baptism date 08 Nov 1908
Place Burpham, St Luke
Residence Slyfield Cottage Slyfield Green Stoke Next Guidton
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Mary Jane Edith
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference 7848/1/1
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1859-1993
Page 60

Francis
Last name Etherington
Birth year 1905
Birth date 18 May 1905
Baptism year 1905
Baptism date 10 Sep 1905
Place Burpham, St Luke
Residence Slyfield Cottage Slyfield Cottage Green Stoke Burpham
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Mary Jane Edith
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference 7848/1/1
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1859-1993
Page 56

George Frederick
Last name Etherington
Baptism year 1906
Baptism date 02 Sep 1906
Place Burpham, St Luke
Residence Slyfield Green Stoke West Guildford
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Jane Edith
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference 7848/1/1
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1859-1993
Page 58

George Frederick
Last name Etherington
Baptism year 1906
Baptism date 02 Sep 1906
Place Burpham, St Luke
Residence Slyfield Green Stoke West Guildford
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Jane Edith
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference 7848/1/1
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1859-1993
Page 58

no other bapt on fmp

Steven

Steven Report 22 May 2021 00:38

so I know my Mary married an Etherington and her maiden name is Cozen, so I don't think its this Mary Ann woman but a Charles James Nunn was a witness to Mary and Francis' wedding going by the information shared on this thread.

Plus was John Cozens wife a Harriet or Hannah?

also did John Cozens end up in prison? as he is mentioned as inmate in the census?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2021 09:44

Which census? And have you looked at the image to see where he was an inmate? It more usually is the Workhouse

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 May 2021 10:08

In the 1891 census which I posted, John (by then a widower) is listed as an inmate of the Kings Lynn Union Workhouse. The transcription posted above says so, and the image says the same.

John's wife was Harriett, as shown in the 1861 marriage record posted above, and the 1881 census, and her 1890 death record.
The 1871 census above calls her Hannah, but that will just be a mistake on the part of the enumerator.