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Finding family info prior to 1841

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Gary

Gary Report 19 Nov 2020 20:51

Hi Guys,
Being fairly new to genealogy, where would I look for family information prior to the first census of 1841 please.
Many Thanks
Gary

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Nov 2020 21:03

Parish records - ie - births/baptisms/marriages/deaths.

Where did your family live?

If in England/Wales - look on FreeBMD (Sept 1837 onwards).
You might find something on FamilySearch (free site) - but be careful to search in "records", and not "Genealogies".
Ancestry (subscription site)
FindMyPast (ditto)

If in Scotland, register with Scotlands People site.
In Ireland - irishgenealogy.ie

There are also more local sites, depending on where your family came from.

If you'd like help, give us some names and dates, and we'll be happy to use our subscriptions to look things up for you.

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2020 21:06

if you can give the names we might beable to help you

Gary

Gary Report 19 Nov 2020 21:28

Hi Maylon,
I have traced the Weller family back to 1791 in East Sussex

Census 1841 James Weller Camber St, Winchelsea

Head James Weller b 1791 a 50 Born ???????
Wife Hannah Weller b 1791 a 50 Born ??????
Dau Mary Weller b 1825 a 16 Born Sussex
Dau Sarah Weller b 1827 a 14 Born Sussex
Dau Susanar Weller b 1829 a 12 Born Sussex
Dau Eliza Weller b 1831 a 10 Born Sussex
Male Thomas Weller b 1840 a 1 Born Sussex
Hope this helps
Gary

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2020 21:35

James Weller
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
James Weller
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
6 Mar 1791
Event Place:
Cuckfield, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Cuckfield, Sussex, England
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
John Weller
Mother's Name:
Sarah

safc

safc Report 19 Nov 2020 21:38

????

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Mill Road, Saint Thomas the Apostle Winchelsea, Rye, Sussex, England
Learn about this record set

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hannah Weller Head Widow Female 65 1786 Widow Iden, Sussex, England
Susanna Weller Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1832 House Servant Winchelsea, Sussex, England
Thomas Weller Grand Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Winchelsea, Sussex, England
Jane Jenkins Visitor Widow Female 67 1784 Receiving Reliff From Parish Winchelsea, Sussex, England

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2020 21:42

this could be john

John Weller
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
John Weller
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
21 Jun 1763
Event Place:
Cuckfield, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Cuckfield, Sussex, England
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
Henry Weller
Mother's Name:
Frances Weller
Frame Number:
452

safc

safc Report 19 Nov 2020 21:44

????

Record Transcription:
England Marriages 1538-1973
First name(s) James
Last name Weller
Name note -
Marriage year 1825
Marriage date 29 Nov 1825
Marriage place Worth
Spouse's first name(s) Hannah
Spouse's last name Knight
Spouse's age -
Residence Worth, Sussex, England
County Sussex
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

safc

safc Report 19 Nov 2020 21:47

Record Transcription:
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
What can I do with this record?
Add To Tree
Is this the same person?
We've found the following potential record matches for the same person in other record sets
Susannah Weller
Civil Marriage & Divorce Record
Sussex, England
Year of marriage: 1855
First name(s) Susanna
Last name Weller
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1830
Baptism date 27 Jun 1830
Place East Guldeford
County Sussex
Country England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Weller
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2020 21:50

Sarah Attersoll
England, Sussex, Parish Registers, 1538-1910
Name:
John Weller
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
15 Mar 1778
Event Place:
All Saints, Lewes, Sussex, England
Gender:
Male
Marital Status:
Married
Spouse's Name:
Sarah Attersoll
Spouse's Gender:
Female

safc

safc Report 19 Nov 2020 21:50

Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Sussex
Place (Links to more information) Worth
Church name (Links to more information) St Nicholas
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 120
Marriage date 29 Nov 1825
Groom forename James
Groom surname WELER
Groom parish Otp
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname KNIGHT
Bride parish Otp
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 Wm LOVELAND
Witness2 Mary KNIGHT
Notes Banns, with consent of parents. All four signed. Groom signed 'Weller'.
Transcribed by Jackie Dinsdale
File line number 121

Gary

Gary Report 19 Nov 2020 21:54

Many thanks Guys , that is really helpful
Gary

Gary

Gary Report 20 Nov 2020 08:32

Thank you all once again, this information is amazing, it will take me a while to digest what you have found for me, but I'm sure I will be back.
Many thanks
Gary

Gary

Gary Report 19 Feb 2021 10:47

Hi Guys,
I hope your all keeping safe during this never ending virus, I'm doing some family research on the Law family in Wittersham, Kent. In particular
Sarah Law b 1854.Mother Sarah Ann Lennard, Father Stephen Law
I can only find census information on Sarah in years
1861 a 7. Living in Boons Hill, Iden. and 1871 census in Kings St, Rye recorded as a Servant a 18, in the home of George H Edwards b 1809 a 62 & Henry Eastland b 1854 a 17, recorded as an Apprentice.
However through a "Tree Match" connection I have received this information,
Sarah Law
1861 RG9/557/141/9
1871 RG10/1023/80/4
1881 RG11/1017/89/5
1891 RG12/756/69/4
1901 RG13/859/62/6
1911 RG14 PN4695 RG78PN200 RD68SD1 ED5 SN1
As this " Tree Match" contact is no longer a member of Genes she can't share her tree to me, so the question is how do or can I search the above census references, to find this information please ?
Many Thanks
Gary


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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2021 10:50

Look for the name - the census references appear on the results

1861 for INFO

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Law
Relationship Daughter
Marital status -
Sex Female
Age 7
Birth year 1854
Occupation -
Birth town Wittersham
Birth town as transcribed WITTERSHAM
Birth county Kent
Birth county as transcribed KENT
Birth place (other) England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Street Boons Hill
Parish Iden
City or borough -
County Sussex
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough Rye
Registration district Rye
Enumeration district 8
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 557
Folio 141
Page 9

Taking for granted that someone else's info is accurate is not a good idea.

Better - by far - to do your own research.

Have you tried to find out if she married?

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Gary

Gary Report 19 Feb 2021 11:12

Hi ErikaH,
Many thanks for your prompt response, I do have Census info on Sarah in 1861 & 1871, but after fruitless searches I can not find further info on Sarah, from 1881 -1891 - 1901- 1911, even though the info is clearly there ?
Many thanks
Gary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2021 11:24

This is what your 'contact' refers to

1901


First name(s) Sarah
Last name Rhodes
Relationship Wife
Marital status Married
Sex Female
Age 47
Birth year 1854
Birth town Iden
Birth town as transcribed IDEN
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Sussex
Birth county as transcribed SUSSEX
Occupation Canvass Factory Hand
House name -
House number -
Street Landgate Square
Town Rye
Parish Rye
Country England
County Sussex
Municipal ward -
Registration district Rye
Other household member first name(s) Bessie, Edwin, Ernest, Walter
Other household member last name Rhodes
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 859
Folio 62

Landgate Square, Rye, Sussex, England

Edwin Rhodes Head Married Male 54 1847 Labourer On Golf Ground Rye, Sussex, England
Sarah Rhodes Wife Married Female 47 1854 Canvass Factory Hand Iden, Sussex, England
Walter Rhodes Son Married Male 22 1879 Labourer On Golf Ground Rye, Sussex, England
Ernest Rhodes Son Single Male 13 1888 Grocers Assistant Rye, Sussex, England
Bessie Rhodes Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Rye, Sussex, England

the marriage
Name: Sarah Leonnard
[Sarah Law]
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1853
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1871
Marriage Place: Rye, Sussex, England
Father: Stephen Law
Spouse: Edwin Thomas Rhodes

The son's birth

RHODES, WALTER GEORGE (MMN) LEONARD
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in RYE Volume 02B Page 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2021 11:31

Name: Sarah Ann Lennard
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Tenterden
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 695
Records on Page:
Name
Stephen Law
Sarah Ann Lennard

Sarah was born before the marriage - hence her use of Leonard when she married and when registering children's births

Dual registration........................

Births Jun 1854 (>99%)
Law Sarah Tenterden 2a 467
Lennard Sarah Tenterden 2a 467

Gary

Gary Report 19 Feb 2021 11:45

Hi ErIkaH,
Your a star, thank you so much.
Until the next time
Stay Safe
Gary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2021 11:46

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