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John sanders and Kathleen Cooper

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Shirley

Shirley Report 11 May 2020 15:38

Hi
Trying to find any info on a John sanders and Kathleen Cooper who married in Bradford in the first quarter of 1914.
They went on to have a child Francis William sanders born also in the first quarter of 1914in bradford.
The only other thing I know is Francis William sanders married alecia or Alice Parker in Manchester in 1932.
Can anyone help either with anything on Francis William sanders mother or father or what happened to him after 1940.i know they had a child Kathleen sanders in 1940. By 1947 Alice sanders née Parker had married Dennis ward and on the marriage cert it does not say she was a widow. So wondering what happened to Francis William sanders who was born in Bradford in 1914. He was in the Royal engineers we think in the second world war.
Thsnks
Shirley :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 May 2020 15:45

Just to add that Francis sanders and Alice Parker daughter was born in 1934, apologies, and she was named Sheila Kathleen sanders. Died aged 6in 1940

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 May 2020 15:47

And Francis William sanders had a brother John g sanders born in chorlton. In 1915i think :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2020 16:03

1939
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
View 1939 England and Wales Register

Report issue

Name: Sheita K Sanders
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1934
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3.
Residence Place: Hemsworth, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: At School
Schedule Number: 252
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: KRJL
Registration district: 506-2
Household Members:
Name
Ethel Parker
Alice Sanders
Sheita K Sanders

Name: Alice Sanders
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1915
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3.
Residence Place: Hemsworth, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2020 16:06

JOHN G
Last name SANDERS
Birth year 1915
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Cooper
District Chorlton

JOHN G
Last name SANDERS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1916
Age 1
Death quarter 1
Death year 1917
District Chorlton

FRANCIS W
Last name SANDERS
Birth year 1914
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Cooper
District Bradford
County Yorkshire
Country England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2020 16:07

Have you looked on the CWGC site?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2020 16:13

Name: Francis W Sanders
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1914
Residence Year: 1939********************
Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Turner Centre Lathe H W
Schedule Number: 253
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NJGR
Registration district: 464 - 2
Household Members:
Name
Francis W Sanders

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2020 16:14

Do you actually have the 1947 marriage cert?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2020 16:24

No-one can help you accurately with John and Kathleen until you tell us - at least - when they were born.

If you don't know, you'll need to get a copy of their marriage cert, for info

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 May 2020 16:47

??????

Not seeing a birth or marriage in Isle of Man for a man of this name

Isle Of Man, Deaths And Burials 1598-2011

First name(s) Francis William
Last name Sanders
Age 31
Birth year 1914
Death year 1945
Registration year 1945
Registration district Douglas
Residence Douglas
Country Isle of Man
Volume 373
Page number 2821
Source
Isle of Man Deaths 1877-2011
Record set Isle Of Man, Deaths And Burials 1598-2011
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Great Britain, UK Other

From ManxBMD.com -

Year Surname Name Age District Vol Page No Entry Usual Residence Notes
1945 Sanders Francis William 31 Douglas 373 2821

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2020 16:49

?????????????????

Deaths Dec 1915 (>99%)
Sanders Kathleen 23 Chorlton 8c 1158

Name: Kathleen Sanders
Age: 23
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1892
Death Date: abt 1915
Burial Date: 4 Dec 1915
Burial Place: Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Cemetery: Southern Cemetery
Cemetery Section: S
Grave Number: 588

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 May 2020 20:36

Thanks for thst. Yes we have the 1947martiage and the 1932marriage cert. Interesting about the isle of man death. Thst may explain why she didn't marry Anthony ward until 1947tjough she was with him in 1941 at the birth of son leonard who was firstly called sanders then changed to ward six weeks later. So on free bmd he is registered as Leonard sanders but on the actual birth certificate he is Leonard ward. Think they split up in 1940 or even as early as 1939. Sheila Kathleen died in an accident in 1940aged 6. I will perhaos get the certificate of John sanders and Kathleen coopers wedding..
Thsnks for your help.
Appreciate it. :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 May 2020 20:46

Thanks greyghost for finding that death. Well done. Thsnks everyone. Answers a lot of questions