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Lincoln Hadley Lawrence

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Valerie

Valerie Report 1 May 2020 16:23

Hi, Trying to find out the mother of Lincoln Hadley Lawrence Born 1886 in Leeds.
I have Hannah Whincup Born 1854-D1890
her husband John Edwin Lawrence B1856 - D1930.

Lincoln marriage to Emily Milburn 1910 ;-Father John Edward (Edwin at times)

But have also found other information which indicates his mother may have been called Mary Hall B1833-D1901 which would have made her 54 when he was born? Father Edwin Lawrence b1825-D1886.

Thanks

Val
:-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 May 2020 16:38

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Stoney Rock Road, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Mary Lawrence Head Widow Female 58 1833 - Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England
Walter Lawrence Son Single Male 20 1871 Terra Cotta Moulder Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lucy Lawrence Daughter Single Female 25 1866 Cook Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ada Lawrence Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Shop Assistant Leeds, Yorkshire, England
John E Lawrence Son Widower Male 35 1856 Gas Fitter Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ernest Lawrence Grandson - Male 9 1882 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Mary Lawrence Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lincoln Lawrence Grandson - Male 4 1887 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
John J Donovan Lodger Single Male 28 1863 Printer Manchester


His father is a widower here so I would imagine Hannah was his mother. Is Mary Hall his grandmother?

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 May 2020 16:38

is this him
Stoney Rock Road, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Mary Lawrence Head Widow Female 58 1833 - Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England
Walter Lawrence Son Single Male 20 1871 Terra Cotta Moulder Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lucy Lawrence Daughter Single Female 25 1866 Cook Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ada Lawrence Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Shop Assistant Leeds, Yorkshire, England
John E Lawrence Son Widower Male 35 1856 Gas Fitter Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ernest Lawrence Grandson - Male 9 1882 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Mary Lawrence Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lincoln Lawrence Grandson - Male 4 1887 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
John J Donovan Lodger Single Male 28 1863 Printer Manchester

safc

safc Report 1 May 2020 16:42

Record Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

27, Falcon Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John E Lawrence Head Married Male 24 1857 Labourer General Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Hannah Lawrence Wife Married Female 24 1857 - Bramham, Yorkshire, England
Mary Lawrence Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 May 2020 16:43

Ah I see why you ask. He is down as Mary's son here.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

46, Cameron Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Mary Lawrence Head Widow Female 68 1833 - Lincolnshire, England
Maria Lawrence Daughter Single Female 40 1861 Charwoman Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lincoln Lawrence Son Single Male 14 1887 Joiner's Apprentice Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Frank Seriviner Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Boot Maker (Rivetter) Nottinghamshire, England
George H Cholerton Boarder Single Male 26 1875 Boot Maker (Rivetter) Derby, Derbyshire, England
James Holdford Boarder Single Male 37 1864 Boot Maker (Rivetter) Stafford, Staffordshire, England
William O Williamson Boarder Widower Male 62 1839 Light Porter Ripon, Yorkshire, England


Well here is John Edwin with his parents and as you can see, Mary is his mother.



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

7, Delph Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Edwin Lawrence Head Married Male 34 1827 Gentlemans Servant Harewood, Yorkshire, England
Mary Lawrence Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England
John E Lawrence Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Sarah E Lawrence Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Maria Lawrence Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
John Epton Lodger - Male 32 1829 Blacksmith Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Johannah Epton Lodger - Female 31 1830 - Waterford, Waterford, Ireland


and his birth. MMN Hall


LAWRENCE, JOHN EDWIN HALL
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 386


and Lincoln's no MMN.

LAWRENCE, LINCOLN LADLEY -
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 407


LAWRENCE, ERNEST WHINCUP
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 464


LAWRENCE, MARY WHINCUP
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 447

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 May 2020 16:44

Name: Lincoln Lawrence
Marriage Age: 24
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1886
Marriage Date: 14 May 1910
Marriage Place: Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Leeds, St Peter
Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: John Edwin Lawrence
Spouse: Emily Milburn

Name: John Edward Lawrence ?????
Marriage Age: 23
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1856
Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1879
Marriage Place: Leeds, St John, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Leeds, St John
Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St John' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Edwin Lawrence
Spouse: Hannah Wincup

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 May 2020 16:55

This is his birth (note difference in second name):-

First name(s) LINCOLN LADLEY
Last name LAWRENCE
Birth year 1887
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Leeds
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9B
Page 407
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

The birth certificate would give you his mother's name. On the GRO record of his birth there is no mother's maiden name given which usually indicates that the child is illigitimate.

Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 May 2020 16:58

Name: Mary Lawrance
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Edwin Lawrance
Gender: Female
Where born: Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 171
Piece: 3389
Folio: 40
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Lawrance 34
Mary Lawrance 28
John E Lawrance 4
Sarah E Lawrance 2
Maria Lawrance 1
John Efron 32
Johana Efron 31

LAWRENCE, MARIA HALL
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 416

EDWIN
Last name LAWRENCE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1854
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


EDWIN LAWRENCE married one of these people

Rebecca Harrison, Marey Hall
District Leeds
District number -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2020 17:03

His mother’s surname was Lawrence

He invented a father when he married

Valerie

Valerie Report 1 May 2020 17:19

A huge thank you to every one for your responses.
Re Lincoln Hadley Lawrence.

The invented father could be the reason on his marriage certificate says father was a mechanic? This trade is not shown on any family member until much later into the 1900s.

Thank you.
Val. :-D

Valerie

Valerie Report 1 May 2020 17:46

Hi, Hope I've managed to thank everyone correctly.

Val. :-S

safc

safc Report 1 May 2020 18:56

????

has this got something do with

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
Lawrence Lincoln Hadley Leeds 9b 407 Scan available - click to view
Lawrence Lincoln Ladley Leeds 9b 407

Record Transcription:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Napier Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary E Ladley Head - Female 31 1840 - Yorkshire, England
Emma Ladley Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Yorkshire, England
William Ladley Son - Male 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England
Lincoln Ladley Son - Male 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England xxx

safc

safc Report 1 May 2020 19:05

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

10 Compton Street Stanley Road Leeds, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lincoln Ladley Head Married Male 44 1867 Motor Mechanic Engineer's Fitter Gildersome Yorks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sarah Ladley Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Crew Cheshire
Margaret Ladley Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Machine Feeder Leeds Yorks
Lily Ladley Daughter Single Female 12 1899 Attend School Leeds Yorks
Mary Elizabeth Ladley Daughter Single Female 10 1901 Attend School Leeds Yorks
Arthur Ladley Son Single Male 2 1909 -

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 May 2020 20:54

Oh well done safc. That has to be his father surely! He married in 1886 so maybe didn't accept young Lincoln as his. So Maria, Ada, Lucy or Annie M could be his mother. Definitely need the birth certificate.