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THOMAS SWANN Kings Sterndale, Derbyshire.

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Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Apr 2020 09:29

Hi
I am looking for the above gentleman who was my 5th G Grandfather born 1666 and died after 1721
His parents were Edward Swann and Anne Cottam and one of his children was also Thomas Swann 1717-1768. 2 other children were Anne and Elizabeth.
What I cannot find is who his wife was. Someone on Ancestry has her as Anne Davenport but I cannot find anything about this.
Any help given on this would be great.
Best wishes
Margaret

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Apr 2020 09:37

ps. I have a tree on Ancestry, access to findmypast and look at IGI.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Apr 2020 09:42

I think you will need to visit Derbyshire County Records Office when they open as this is too early for most records to be online.

Kath. x

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Apr 2020 09:47

Only Thomas Swann (variant spelling included) baptised c 1717 showing on FMP Derbyshire records. In both instances Father Thomas, no Mother showing - not unusual that far back.

Baptised at Chelmorton but Resident in Stearndale

Derbyshire Births And Baptisms

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Swann
Birth year -
Baptism year 1717
Baptism date 13 Feb 1717
Denomination Anglican
Church St John the Baptist
Place Chelmorton
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Thomas
Residence Stearndale
County Derbyshire
Country England
Record set Derbyshire Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Helen Betteridge & Jean Shannon

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Derbyshire Births And Baptisms

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Swann
Birth year -
Baptism year 1715
Baptism date 07 Oct 1715
Denomination Anglican
Church St John the Baptist
Place Chelmorton
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Thomas
Residence Stearndale
County Derbyshire
Country England
Record set Derbyshire Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Helen Betteridge & Jean Shannon

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There is also an Anne Swann baptised 23 June 1719 @ Chelmorton from Stearndale and Elizabeth Swann 7 August 1721 @ Chelmorton from Stearndale.
Both with Father Thomas.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Apr 2020 09:52

That's the baptism of the son Greyghost. This is Thomas's baptism:-

First name(s) Tho
Last name Swann
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1666
Baptism date 12 Jul 1666
Place Chelmorton
County Derbyshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Edw <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's last name Swann
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms

Kath. x

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Apr 2020 10:02

Hi
Many thanks for this. I don't think I will get any more without as has been said without going to the records office.
Best wishes
Margaret

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Apr 2020 10:11

Kath - baptisms posted to show Father Thomas but no Mother's name showing to help - Margaret is looking for Thomas' wife, so she may have shown on their children's baptismal records. As I understand it the children were Thomas 1717 and also Anne and Elizabeth.

Only Thomas Swann (or variants) marriages in right sort of time frame 1700 +/- 20 years are -

Thomas SWAIN 29 Apr 1702 to a Mary Wheatcroft at Crich or

Thomas Swan 5 Mar 1716 at Wirksworth to Maria Seeds


Margaret - have a look at Derek's thread
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073

Not been used for a while but he's probably still around either via the thread or if no response try sending a PM

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Apr 2020 10:46

Thanks Greyghost I will try that.