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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 19:00

Easily done

my mention of the GRO was relating to the confirmation of Elizabeth’s death as the age is on the GRO site before it shows on freebmd, which is from 1869 on.

Kayak

Kayak Report 26 Apr 2020 18:53

Thanks again Erika and thanks to you too Maddie.

I did know about the GRO index Erika, that was my starting point and I found them in the 1851 census with Elizabeth's son William Batten but stupidly I then picked up on the other George not even considering that Elizabeth's husband might have died before 1871. So thanks again for helping to sort out my mistake :-D

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Apr 2020 17:54

ELIZABETH
Last name HUNT
Birth year 1809
Baptism year 1809
Baptism day 10
Baptism month Aug
Son or daughter Daughter
Father's first name(s) Andrew
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Parish SHERFIELD ENGLISH
County Hampshire
Country England
Notes
bn 28 Jun, of Wellow

in the 1851 England Census
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Name: Elizabeth Croswell
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George Croswell
Gender: Female
Where born: West Wellow, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Apr 2020 16:23

could this be his father
William Eleazer
Last name Batten
Age 29
Birth year 1807
Residence Stroud Green
Death year 1836
Burial year 1836
Burial date 24 Jul 1836
Church St Mary
Place Greenham
County Berkshire
Country England

William
Last name Batten
Birth year -
Marriage year 1834
Marriage date 01 Feb 1834
Church St Mary
Place Greenham
County Berkshire
Country England
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Hunt -----------------
Licence or banns By Banns
Record set Berkshire Marriages Index

the son
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Kings Road, Reading, Berkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William E Batten Head Married Male 54 1837 Tobacconist Newbury, Berkshire, England
Emma Batten Wife Married Female 51 1840 - Witney, Oxfordshire, England
Harold Batten Son Single Male 18 1873 Baker Newbury, Berkshire, England
Maud E Batten Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Newbury, Berkshire, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

West Combes Buildings, Newbury, Berkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Elezear Batten Head Married Male 44 1837 Bootmaker Greenham, Berkshire, England
Emma Batten Wife Married Female 41 1840 Bootmaker (Apprentice) Witney, Oxfordshire, England
Winden James Batten Son Single Male 17 1864 Printer (App) Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Harry Crosswell Batten Son Single Male 15 1866 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England
Nellie Batten Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England
Harold Batten Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England
Maude Edith Batten Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 16:22

1861

Name: Elizabeth Cropwell
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: 1808
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George Cropwell
Gender: Female
Where born: Romsey, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Newbury
Town: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newbury
Sub-registration district: Newbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 720
Folio: 96
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
George Cropwell 43 Innkeeper, b,. Greenham
Elizabeth Cropwell 53
Charles Skinner 38
Sarah Berry 21
Elizth Smith 19
George Hicks 30
Eliza Wildman 62
Abraham Turrell 35
Mary Ann Turrell 25

The enumerator used the 'fs' form of 'ss' which the transcriber has interpreted as 'p'

So George DID change his occupation - but not to labourer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 16:17

Elizabeth's son in 1861

Name: William Batton
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Batton
Gender: Male
Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishop Ryder
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 171
Piece: 2155
Folio: 119
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
William Batton 24
Emma Batton 21
Alice Henrietta Batton 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 16:12

The man you've posted the link for was a labourer

Is it likely a shoemaker would change his occupation so radically?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 16:07

????????

First name(s) George
Last name Crosswell
Age 47
Birth year 1818
Residence Greenham, Graham's Cottages
Death year 1865
Burial year 1865
Burial date 21 Jun 1865
Church St John the Evangelist
Place Newbury
County Berkshire

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Apr 2020 16:05

Elizabeth
Last name Crosswell
Age 55
Birth year 1807
Residence Newbury
Death year 1862
Burial year 1862
Burial date 03 Feb 1862
Church St Nicolas
Place Newbury
County Berkshire
Country England
Record set Berkshire Burial Index

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 16:02

CROSSWELL, ELIZABETH 55
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in NEWBURY Volume 02C Page 144

Thought you would know about the GRO index ;-) ;-)

Kayak

Kayak Report 26 Apr 2020 15:59

Thanks Erika that's great! Now trying to establish if this death is Elizabeth's

Deaths Mar 1862
Crosswell Elizabeth Newbury 2c 144

and if this is George off with another woman before Elizabeth died.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFXJ-T3S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 15:53

??????????

First name(s) William Eleazer
Last name Batten
Age 29
Birth year 1807
Residence Stroud Green
Death year 1836
Burial year 1836
Burial date 24 Jul 1836
Church St Mary
Place Greenham
County Berkshire
Country England
Record set Berkshire Burial Index

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 15:45

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Market Place, Bear Yard, Newbury St Nicholas, Newbury, Berkshire, England

George Croswell Head Married Male 33 1818 Shoemaker Greenham, Berkshire, England
Elizabeth Croswell Wife Married Female 42 1809 - West Wellow, Hampshire, England
Thomas Warner Visitor Unmarried Male 24 1827 Sawyer Newbury, Berkshire, England
Frederick Rowell Visitor Unmarried Male 25 1826 Printer Newbury, Berkshire, England
William Batten Son In Law Unmarried Male 14 1837 Shoemaker Greenham, Berkshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 15:42

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Back Lane, Newbury, Berkshire, England

George Crosswell Male 20 1821 Berkshire, England
Elizabeth Crosswell Female 30 1811 -
Thomas Crosswell Male 5 1836 Berkshire, England
William Batten Male 0 1841 Berkshire, England
Thomas Whiting Male 20 1821 Berkshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 15:39

First marriage ??

First name(s) William
Last name Batten
Birth year -
Marriage year 1834
Marriage date 01 Feb 1834
Church St Mary
Place Greenham
County Berkshire
Country England
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Hunt
Licence or banns By Banns
Record set Berkshire Marriages Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Apr 2020 15:35

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Batten
Age full age
Birth year -
Marital status Widow
Occupation Servant
Residence Newbury
Marriage year 1839
Marriage date 21 Dec 1839
Church St Nicolas
Place Newbury
County Berkshire
Country England
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Henneh
Spouse's age full age
Spouse's marital status Bachelor
Spouse's occupation Shoemaker
Spouse's residence Newbury
Father's first name(s) Andrew
Father's last name Hunt
Spouse's father's first name(s) Jene[?]
Spouse's father's last name HENNEH
Signed Signed: (x)
Spouse signed Signed: George CROSSWELL******************************
Licence or banns Banns
Witnesses Thomas LLOYD; Ann SWINDEN
Additional information [Officiating Minister] H BRINNEY

Kayak

Kayak Report 26 Apr 2020 15:28

Hi,
Please can someone post the details for the following marriage:

Elizabeth Batten + George Henneh 1839 in Newbury

Freebmd only shows 1 Elizabeth Batten marriage in Newbury in 1839 and the only George recorded on the same page is George Crosswell so wondering if there's been some sort of mistake, also interested in finding out if Elizabeth was a widow.

TIA
Tigit