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Keith Allen Manners

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Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Apr 2020 16:34

Ive come back to my tree after a break of a few years and have been looking for this man for a while
Today I found a death which maybe him. Do I have to wait for the record offices to reopen or can anyone tell me any more information?

Keith Allen Manners born Prestwich 1926
Married Eileen Cameron Dentith c 1950
lived in Bramhall in50s

I know about his parents and siblings but couldn't find more about him until today.
The death I found was in Oxford in 2013, please could anyone give me some more information
Thank you Nicky

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Apr 2020 16:48

probate
Keith Allen
Last name Manners
Death year 2013
Death date 16 Feb 2013
Probate year 2013
Probate date 04 Oct 2013
Residence town -
Registry Oxford
County Oxfordshire
Country England
Document type Grant and will
Number 4168656
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019

??????
Keith Allen Manners

in the Web: UK, WWII Medals Issued to Merchant Seamen, 1939-1945

Report issue

Name: Keith Allen Manners
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1926
Service: 1939-1945
Medal Issued/Claimed: 1946-2002
Discharge Number: R306043
URL:

Name: Keith Allen Manners
Arrival Date: 9 Jan 1944
Birth Date: abt 1927
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: prestwick
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Gourock, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Search Ship Database: Search for the Queen Mary in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Keith A
Last name Manners
Year 2006-10
Street Tuckers Road
Town Faringdon
County Oxfordshire
Country England
Postcode SN7 7YQ
Age guide -
Address 9, Tuckers Road, Faringdon, Oxfordshire, SN7 7YQ
District Faringdon
Occupancy (years) 5
Other occupants Margaret Manners
Electoral rolls 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Apr 2020 17:17

Although Scottish certs are unobtainable at present, as far as I'm aware you can still order English and Welsh certs on the GRO site:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/app_select.asp

At least, it doesn't say you can't.




Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Apr 2020 19:05

Thank you for your help.
Maddie, most of what you found is my Keith, not sure about the death. His wife was Eileen and ive never found a birth so I don't know who Margaret is, maybe someone elses Keith. I will keep it in mind though.


ArgyllGran, Thank you, I have others to send for too so I will contact them

Nicky

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2020 19:20

From the GRO site - FREE To all

MANNERS, KEITH ALLEN (Birth year) 1926
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2013 in Oxfordshire (695-1B) Entry Number 508083479

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Apr 2020 19:24

dont know if you have this, with eileen c, he is a ships officer

Name: Keith A Manners
Arrival Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1927
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1952
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney; Melbourne; Adelaide; Fremantle; Colombo; Port Said and Malta
Ship Name: Moreton Bay
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 130169
Search Ship Database: Search for the Moreton Bay in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Apr 2020 20:31

There's a marriage in 1992 in Okehampton for a Keith A Manners to a Margaret C Wickham.

Rose

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 13:56

There is NO record of any marriage to Eileen in EnglandWales

She married in 1945 in Northumberland

Name: Eileen C Dentith
Registration Date: Apr 1945
[May 1945]
[Jun 1945]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Spouse: John C Elmsly
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1066


EDIT

Did Manners marry her in NZ?


Name: Eileen Cameron Elmsly
Electoral Year: 1946
District: North Shore
Region or Province: Auckland

First name(s) E C
Last name Elmsly
Title MRS
Gender Female
Age 21
Birth year 1925
Departure year 1946
Departure day 18
Departure month 1
Departure port Southampton
Destination port Wellington
Destination WELLINGTON

UK Address:Salford


Name: Mrs Eileen Elmsly
Birth Date: abt 1926
Departure Place: Christmas Island, Line Islands
Arrival Date: 16 Feb 1946
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Age on Arrival: 20
Vessel: Stirling Castle

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 14:15

Name: John Charles Elmsly
Gender: Male
Military Date: 31 Jan 1944
Military Place: Wellington, New Zealand
Rank: Flight Lieutenant

Name: John Charles Elmsly
Electoral Year: 1957
District: North Shore
Region or Province: Auckland
With a different 'married' female

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 14:20

1939 - same address as on shipping manifest

5 Doveleys Road, Salford C.B., Lancashire, England
Alfred S Dentith 27 Aug 1896 Male Police Sergant Married 306 1
Lucy Deutith 06 Apr 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Dut Married 306 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 14:32

Name: Mr Keith A Manners
Birth Date: 1924-1926
Residence Date: 2003
Address: 2, ***** Gardens, Hempsted, GL2 5JX
Residence Place: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

Name: Mrs Margaret C Manners
Birth Date: 1927-1929
Residence Date: 2003
Address: 2, ****** Gardens, Hempsted, GL2 5JX
Residence Place: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 14:44

Name: Keith A Manners
Registration Date: Jan 1975
[Feb 1975]
[Mar 1975]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St. Pancras
Inferred County: Greater London
Spouse: Sheila K Romer-lee

Name: Sheila K Manners
Registration Date: Jul 1982
[Aug 1982]
[Sep 1982]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon******************************************************
Spouse: Royston J Schroeder


Name: Royston Joseph Schroeder
Death Date: 4 Jul 1995
Death Place: Lustleigh Newton Abbot Devon
Probate Date: 6 Nov 1995
Probate Registry: Bristol

Name: Royston Joseph Schroeder
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1923
Registration Date: Jul 1995
Registration district: Teignbridge
Inferred County: Devon
Register Number: 4DA
District and Subdistrict: 4131A
Entry Number: 184

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Apr 2020 14:47

Did she remarry? There is a marriage for Eileen C Manners to Cyril S Smith 1968 Manchester.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 15:01

Name: Eileen C Manners
Arrival Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1926
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1952
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney; Melbourne; Adelaide; Fremantle; Colombo; Port Said and Malta
Ship Name: Moreton Bay
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line


In London in 1956 - where Keith married in 1975

Name: Eileen C Manners
Electoral Date: 1956
Street address: 29 Cheverton Road
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington North
County or Borough: Islington, England
Also Keith A Manners

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 15:06

So, it seems that they both married at least three times - IF they actually married each other

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Apr 2020 15:09

The couple who married in 1968 seem to have been in Torpoint, Cornwall in 2002

Nicola

Nicola Report 22 Apr 2020 13:43

Wow ErikaH thank you, you have found so much
I found a marriage in 1950 in New Zealand, for them both.It will take me a while to read through everything and make sense of it.
What does it mean when it says, The record for this person is officially closed? ive come across this before
once again, thank you so much for your help
Nicky

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Apr 2020 14:27


The record for this person is officially closed.
For individual people, records remain closed for a century after their birth (the 100-year rule), unless it can be proven that they passed away before this milestone. Use the ‘Open This Record’ button if you believe that this person is now deceased

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Apr 2020 15:16

Nothing whatsoever to do with this search -

but while Googling the name Dentith, I came across this name, and can't resist sharing it:
Dentith and Dentith Dental Practice

Good name!
But hard not to thay Practith ath well.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Apr 2020 15:26

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D